Anal About Your iTunes?

eRondeau

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I love music and I love iTunes. I have invested probably hundreds of hours into my music library, ripping music in AAC, rating songs, and assembling high-quality cover art for almost every track. The day before yesterday I had around 3,300 songs -- all top quality, either ripped right from my own original CD's or purchased from iTMS. All regularly backed-up on iPod, Lacie HD and DVD. I was SO happy, and SO proud of my collection!

Then SHE called. A cute female friend of mine received a pink iPod mini for Christmas, and needed help loading it up. Only problem -- she wanted HER music and only HER music put on. So she came over last night with five .mp3 CD's she had accumulated over the years, mostly from PC file-sharing networks. Now, I realize that I could have taken steps to keep my library separate from her songs, but I was weak and starry-eyed and figured I'd just merge them now and fix it up later.

So the upshot was, she left happy with 3.5GB of her weird New Age music and assorted Gregorian Chants filling up her pink iPod, and I've now topped 4,000 songs in my iTunes library. Only thing is, I have this weird feeling that I've somehow "contaminated" my formerly-pristine collection with 96-and-128K .mp3's sourced from God-knows-where. I feel like I've just introduced some kind of dirty disease onto my Mac; like I've eaten my lunch from a garbage can; like I've just slept with a porn star without wearing a condom. I know a byte is a byte is a byte, and that lots of people are perfectly happy with Kazaa .mp3's, and that my original collection is still there, unblemished, in all its AAC glory. Yet the thought of it still bothers me more than it probably should.

So I guess my question is: Is this normal behavior for a 30-something Mac guy??? Anybody else out there as messed-up as I am??? And how do you find cover art for a Gregorian Chant???
 

Diatribe

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marknicholls said:
Well if your collection is so well backed up, why cant you just restore your collection from your backup?
Exactly, the backup files should've never touched that NewAge crap :D

I'm not really anal about my iTunes but I make sure the quality is good. For me this means no tunes below 224k AAC and CD rips only.
I do have a couple of downloaded songs at a lower rate but only b/c I haven't yet found those on CD.
 

marknicholls

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I must agree, i am kind of anal about my music. All my ID3 tags must be correct, and all the album art must be correct as all the art shows on my PDA which is docked by my TV so it looks kinda cool ;)
 

thequicksilver

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I'm a little anal about things like column sizes - which must be consistent between playlists - and genres, which must be eradicated without fail. (Would you call both Elvis Presley and the Spice Girls 'pop'? And if not, what would you call Elvis? Nobody can agree, therefore they blow.) Also like to have accurate years for my date based playlists, much better way to categorise music.

But as for encoding, well, as long as it sounds ok, then it's fine by me. Suppose I'm only visually anal. :)
 

MacDawg

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Interesting what we are anal about...

I need titles to be consistent... in other words, nothing all caps, or all lower case. They need to be "titles". Artist needs to be absolutely consistent too. I use genre, so that has to be fairly consistent, though there are certainly gray areas. Most of that gets lumped into 'pop'.

Playlists need to have the browser "on", set to continuous play and random.

Other than that, I'm not too picky. Guess I'm visually anal too. I can't hear sound quality difference too well, so I'm not a stickler there.

Woof, Woof - Dawg
 

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I forgot something... :D
My list has to be organized exactly like this throughout iTunes and it's not supposed to show a scrollbar, I hate that. :D

How do you guys have your columns set up?
 

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Blue Velvet

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eRondeau said:
I feel like I've just introduced some kind of dirty disease onto my Mac; like I've eaten my lunch from a garbage can; like I've just slept with a porn star without wearing a condom.
Personally, I wouldn't know what any of those things feel like... you know, a lot of guys around here would probably also skip the condom.

And they'd probably also not get too upset about 'different' music contaminating their precious collection...

See it as an opportunity to listen to something different, to learn a little about Gregorian chants... you can always delete them later. It's no biggie...

Saying that, a colleague gave me a disk 3 months ago with some indy MP3s of uncertain provenance which remain unlistened to, but maybe you should lighten up a little.

After all, it's not often you get a free lunch, even it's not immediately to your liking.

p.s. Album art on a screen -- it's overrated.
 

MacDawg

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Blue Velvet said:
p.s. Album art on a screen -- it's overrated.
I thought this was going to be really cool... but I lost interest in it real fast. I'm usually doing something, either on the computer (MR?) or in the room, and I don't have time to sit and listen and look at the art work too.

Woof, Woof - Dawg
 

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thequicksilver said:
I'm a little anal about things like column sizes - which must be consistent between playlists - and genres, which must be eradicated without fail. (Would you call both Elvis Presley and the Spice Girls 'pop'? And if not, what would you call Elvis? Nobody can agree, therefore they blow.)
It doesn't matter what everyone thinks the genre should be; it only matters what you think. FTR, I'd call Elvis and the Spice Girls "pop." However, I use allmusic.com to add music styles to the Grouping tag (because I don't use Grouping and I want to keep Comments uncluttered). In this case, Elvis would have things like Rock & Roll and Pop/Rock while the Spice Girls would have Euro-Pop and Dance-Pop. Then I can make smart playlists that incorporate certain styles. It's a lot of work to set up, but it works really well once you're done.
 

thequicksilver

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Here's my columns.

Still can't see the point of genres though - if you look at my mostly electronic based playlist, each little bit is divided into so many sub-genres. The instrumental stuff I listen to a lot of - is it chillout, ambient, melodic trance, instrumental house, or something completely different? It gets to the point where it's just easier to dispense with them altogether and group my music by year and different playlists to represent different moods.
 

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MattG

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I'm very careful about making sure stuff stays organized. Correcting misspelled words, making sure album titles/artists all get labeled properly. I also don't like putting crap in my library that was downloaded from who knows where. Everything in my library is either ripped from CDs or downloaded from iTMS.

I like it to look pretty :p
 

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thequicksilver said:
Here's my columns.

Still can't see the point of genres though - if you look at my mostly electronic based playlist, each little bit is divided into so many sub-genres. The instrumental stuff I listen to a lot of - is it chillout, ambient, melodic trance, instrumental house, or something completely different? It gets to the point where it's just easier to dispense with them altogether and group my music by year and different playlists to represent different moods.
Nice playcounts :D
Genres are only useful if you listen to a lot of different stuff. I have about 20 different genres and I already put rock/pop together...
Since I listen to classical music, punk, r&b, rap, pop, rock, metal, etc., etc. genres are needed to find what I am looking for.
 

vollspacken

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I don't collect CDs in order to keep my MP3 collection lean and clean

I don't care about cover art

BUT pre-sorting into folders (for example "Drum'n'Bass, Garage, Jungle & Grime", "Jazz, Latin & Score" and "Electronic, Techno & House") and then "fine-labeling" them is very important to me...

vSpacken
 

Lacero

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eRondeau said:
A cute female friend of mine received a pink iPod mini for Christmas, and needed help loading it up. Only problem -- she wanted HER music and only HER music put on.
I would have created a new user account for her, so only her tunes is in a separate iTunes music library, so it doesn't affect your stuff.

Did you create a separate playlist for her. Since you could pretty well delete all her music by selecting it in a playlist and pressing Option-Delete, which will delete it out of your library as well. :D Very useful option!

As for others hating album art, I love it. Ever since the iPod nano and 5G iPods came out, I'm an avid collector of 600x600 high quality album art. My collection of about 34,000 songs with 7% already tagged as complete. (meaning full album art, lyrics and at least 128 Kb AAC).

I also love high quality album art, so I can create nice looking compilation CDs using iTunes album art print feature. I love it! :D

ps. I was searching for 'star rating' in MR but only this post showed up. Oh well, nothing like resurrecting old threads. :p

Here's to the Crazy Ones
 

killuminati

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I'm also really anal about my itunes collection. I had about 2,500 songs on my powerbook all with album art and lyrics and then a couple days ago my hard drive crashed and i lost everything.

I had backed up my music to my imac a couple months before but there were only 1600 songs and it was before I had added album art and lyrics to everything :(.
 

SummerBreeze

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Yay old threads!

I'm a bit insane about my itunes library. I have album art for everything, and rating for everything. I have to update my ipod all the time, because I want the playcounts to be correct. And of course the tags are perfect.

A friend once gave me a burned cd and told me that I had to listen to it. I was all up for it until I realized that she had burned two cds onto one and their tags didn't automatically show up. So I spent an afternoon googling the lyrics to figure out what the song was, then googling the song title to find the correct information. It took me awhile, and I considered it time well spent. It's stuff like that that makes people think I'm crazy.
 

floyde

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eRondeau said:
So I guess my question is: Is this normal behavior for a 30-something Mac guy??? Anybody else out there as messed-up as I am??? And how do you find cover art for a Gregorian Chant???
Well I'm a 24 Mac guy and that seems perfectly normal to me. I do suffer from OCD though :rolleyes: :) (true story:().
You could just show the "bit rate" column and delete anything below your standards, or show the "format" column and then get rid of anything with the word mp3 on it. Or..., you could give in to the sweet, sweet pleasure of "dirty" music ;)

edit: oh, wow, this thread is very, very old
 

OutThere

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Lacero said:
ps. I was searching for 'star rating' in MR but only this post showed up. Oh well, nothing like resurrecting old threads. :p
This thread, in fact, died before you even registered here. :p
 

cgratti

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Why dont you just create another user account on your mac and let her have that account to import her music from her itunes?

Why would someone even have an iPod with no Mac or PC to load it with music or charge it from anyway?
 

conradzoo

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Question. How do you get rid of mispelled genres? Everytime i Type (whenever i'm not browsin thru the list) like say 'Alternative' it reads 'Aternative'. Very annoying... at least.:confused:
 

Lacero

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conradzoo said:
Question. How do you get rid of mispelled genres? Everytime i Type (whenever i'm not browsin thru the list) like say 'Alternative' it reads 'Aternative'. Very annoying... at least.:confused:
Browse by Genre and select all the songs tagged with 'Aternative' and change them all to 'Alternative'.

I simplified my genre listing to 28, down from 44. Makes management oh so easy.

Here's to the Crazy Ones
 

iSaint

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I like correctly spelled and capitalized info on my iTunes. I only have about 15 genres, and a couple of them are some that I've made up (AlternRock for example - not quite punk, but most of what I listen to from the 80's through today). I've become more anal about my iTunes layout and content.

I downloaded a bunch of Usher and 50 Cent and other junk for my daughter, and also feel like my music collection has been violated somehow.