And our Sports Culture causes another disgusting act.....

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  1. quagmire macrumors 603

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    Absolutely disgusting. Having women have sex with guys just to recruit them to OSU.....

    http://bleacherreport.com/articles/...ium=referral&utm_campaign=editorial&hpt=hp_t3
     
  2. Peace macrumors Core

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    Well hell. they didn't do that for an education major !!
     
  3. citizenzen macrumors 65816

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    You're surprised?
     
  4. quagmire thread starter macrumors 603

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    Not after Penn State and Steubenville, OH......
     
  5. citizenzen macrumors 65816

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    Well, one big difference being that the act in your OP was consensual.
     
  6. quagmire thread starter macrumors 603

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    True. But, same concept overall. Sports is such a big deal they will cover up rape, child abuse, etc and in this case have their recruiters have sex with potential recruits......
     
  7. bradl macrumors 68040

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    Well, when your state's official religion is College football, things like this are bound to happen. it's just a matter of how much has it happened, and would anyone have the balls (pun intended) to report it.

    BL.
     
  8. citizenzen macrumors 65816

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    I'm sure this is an age-old recruiting tactic.

    Did you think they just showed off their gym facilities?

    Tell the truth now ...

    Do you have daughters in college?
     
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    Money. Corrupts. Everything.
     
  10. LIVEFRMNYC macrumors 603

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    And your focused just on sports cause .............. ????

    It's not sports culture, it's culture in general.
     
  11. quagmire thread starter macrumors 603

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    No I don't have any daughters( or kids). I'm only 23. :p

    Like I said, I'm not surprised anymore. I'm sure it very well could be an age old recruiting technique. But, it doesn't mean I have like or accept it. It's one thing if these women slept with these men on their own prerogative and not related to the recruitment. But, the fact the schools have them do it is disgusting.

    Even if these women know joining the recruitment team they are going to have sex in order to lure the guys in and see it as an opportunity to bang these hot sport jocks, it's still disgusting the school endorses it or turns a blind eye to it.
     
  12. malman89, Sep 13, 2013
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    Are you new to... the world? Or skip college? Or every movie where the varsity jocks get the girls?

    This happens everywhere. The story even mentions the young women who slept with players were not told by staff or players to do so and the ones that did were a very small minority.

    That is by far the least revealing story (if true) by SI regarding OK State's program in the last week.

    Boosters handing players cash. Players, tutors, and professors collaborating to maintain eligibility, and whatever else SI has released are much bigger stories regarding OK State.
     
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    What appalls me the most is that OK is at the bottom of almost all well-being lists, yet they pump untold millions into their football program. College sports make me sick to my stomach.
     
  14. Technarchy macrumors 603

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    Anyone offended shouldn't watch college sports.

    I don't.
     
  15. quagmire thread starter macrumors 603

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    I don't watch it either.
     
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    I think you're jumping to conclusions. The article mentions that one staff member was disappointed and stated that a hostess didn't "do her job" when a recruit reported not having sex the night before, but that's it. One would expect staff members to deny any knowledge or involvement in the activities (and the staff interviewed for the article did exactly that), even if it was a lie.

    But it's not hard to imagine how something like this could start on its own, without the staff knowing. Some people take "school pride" incredibly far, and sports are a source of that pride. The "Orange Hostesses" were tasked with recruiting, and the volunteers presumably joined the group because they wanted to do something for their school and the team. If they viewed this as their way of making the football team better, then it's perfectly realistic that the more zealous among the group would resort to extreme tactics, all of their own accord.

    And what would any staff members say? Sex in recruiting is unprofessional behavior by my standards, but not everyone agrees with me. The coaching staff were getting what they wanted, and one could argue that the volunteers were getting what they wanted, too. If they're engaging in sexual acts because they want to and they're doing it as their own personal thing, what right would the school have to intervene?

    It's dangerous because it creates a culture and potential scenario where volunteers might feel pressured into engaging in sexual acts. I agree with you that this is a disgusting situation. I'm just not sure that the school deserves all of the blame.
     
  17. Zombie Acorn macrumors 65816

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    The sex is the least of my worries, its the rampant cheating that occurs during courses to maintain eligibility that is more worrisome. Anyone who doesn't think the school is encouraging these girls to show the guys a good time is a little delusional though.
     
  18. quagmire thread starter macrumors 603

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    I did address it starting on its own in the paragraph below that one that you deleted. Even if staff didn't have them do it, but knew of it( at least one staff member knew of it as you stated) and turned a blind eye to it because it was working, it's still disgusting.

    It's like the Penn State case. They knew what was going on, they just ignored it.
     
  19. citizenzen macrumors 65816

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    I'm curious why you think it's "disgusting".

    People have sex for all kinds of reasons, not just as an expression of a loving and committed relationship. College in particular has to be one of the most active environments for sexual activity and exploration.

    Do you masturbate to porn?

    There are many people who would say you're contributing to an industry that exploits women and men for your sexual gratification, and would call that disgusting.

    As a general rule, I don't care about the sexual choices made by consenting adults. I have my standards and let others live according to theirs.
     
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    So you're telling me people have sex, drink and act crazy in college? WHAT?!?!?! Clearly you aren't an athlete and don't follow sports. This is pretty widely known throughout and I can guarantee it isn't just Oklahoma State. It's no surprise here that so many here have their blinders on and are acting shocked ITT. Seeing some of the responses just confirms what kind of people are here. Kick back and relax a little. No need to be uptight at all times. I mean, it's just sex right? That's what we're told all the time by your cronies.
     
  21. TPadden macrumors 6502a

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    ... and I will stop watching right after the Alabama-A&M game .....:rolleyes:
     
  22. Zombie Acorn macrumors 65816

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    You don't have a problem with an institution of higher learning condoning and likely organizing the exploitation of young impressionable women to have sex with athletes to get good recruits? I'm sure they are told they are just taking one for the team.
     
  23. jnpy!$4g3cwk macrumors 65816

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    I agree. It is kind of a gray area, but, bordering on prostitution. No way should this be part of an official program.

    Define "adult". It is a process that begins somewhere around age 12 and ends somewhere around age 30. (Or, later for some people.) No way should a university be sponsoring this involving students and prospective students.
     
  24. quagmire, Sep 14, 2013
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    How many times do I have to say it? I would have no problem with it if these women were having sex with them if it was on their own time in no relation to the recruitment program. And the fact at least some members of the staff knew about these actions and turned a blind eye to it( or in the case of the one disappointed when one didn't have sex with a recruit), that is the disgusting part. When you're representing the school, having sex with recruits should be inappropriate.

    I'm not uptight about sex or one of those people that have a double standard of men having casual sex is a good thing that should be congratulated and women having casual sex is wrong and immoral. There are appropriate times to have sex. When you're representing the school, that is not an appropriate time. And the fact the staff encourage it, disappointed when it doesn't happen, and/or turn a blind eye to it makes it even worse.
     
  25. citizenzen macrumors 65816

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    I actually agreed more with your previous post that it's more of a shame the academic violations routinely connected to college athletics.

    But, I will agree that if the university itself is tied to hiring or organizing sexual liaisons, then that should not occur and the staff responsible for that should be fired.
     

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