Anderson Cooper to Trump Mngr: If Settlement Implies Guilt, Doesn't That Make Trump Guilty?[VIDEO]


MadeTheSwitch

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She probably should have thought that argument through a little better.
Wow...she got destroyed. Couldn't even answer the question. I am totally fine with saying that Clinton is guilty because he settled, why can't she admit the same thing? Trump is guilty of racial discrimination in housing because he settled! Trump is guilty in every contractors dispute that he settled. The logic can't work in just one direction. Either settlement represents guilt for all or it doesn't for anyone.
 
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A.Goldberg

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I think this issue has been completely been spun out of control. We're not voting on the issue of Donald Trump vs Hillary Clinton via Bill Clinton's sexual comments/indiscretions.

No, a settlement does not imply guilt and this women's argument sounds stupid- then again the video conveniently is cut off to understand how she justifies her comments which I loathe.

There is however the topic that Clinton did admit to multiple sexual indescrestions including Monica Lewinski and Gennifer Flowers, with many other accusations. While his actions have little to do with Hillary's campaign, Hillary's brutal remarks to these women I think cannot be overlooked considering her comments towards Trump.

Trump has his own issues with relationships and comments. It's probably one can of worms that his entire property collection could not contain. And one that none of us probably have the stomach to handle.

So in summation, per usual I'm not a fan of either of our characters here. I suspect Hillary's not nearly as bad as Trump in the topic at hand, but I wish our country could find some more respectable people. I don't think we should have to settle for a lesser evil, so to speak.
 

ericgtr12

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Why does she put herself through that? No amount of money is worth this, she's gotten plenty already and can afford to pack it in, she's lost nearly all her dignity already.
 

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I think this issue has been completely been spun out of control. We're not voting on the issue of Donald Trump vs Hillary Clinton via Bill Clinton's sexual comments/indiscretions.

No, a settlement does not imply guilt and this women's argument sounds stupid- then again the video conveniently is cut off to understand how she justifies her comments which I loathe.

There is however the topic that Clinton did admit to multiple sexual indescrestions including Monica Lewinski and Gennifer Flowers, with many other accusations. While his actions have little to do with Hillary's campaign, Hillary's brutal remarks to these women I think cannot be overlooked considering her comments towards Trump.

Trump has his own issues with relationships and comments. It's probably one can of worms that his entire property collection could not contain. And one that none of us probably have the stomach to handle.

So in summation, per usual I'm not a fan of either of our characters here. I suspect Hillary's not nearly as bad as Trump in the topic at hand, but I wish our country could find some more respectable people. I don't think we should have to settle for a lesser evil, so to speak.
There is a longer version at the bottom of this page. She never answered his question.

I'd rather not settle for a lesser evil either. Though unfortunately Trump not only a horrible human being, but also utterly incompetent. :/
 

citizenzen

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I think this issue has been completely been spun out of control. We're not voting on the issue of Donald Trump vs Hillary Clinton via Bill Clinton's sexual comments/indiscretions.

No, a settlement does not imply guilt and this women's argument sounds stupid- then again the video conveniently is cut off to understand how she justifies her comments which I loathe.

There is however the topic that Clinton did admit to multiple sexual indescrestions including Monica Lewinski and Gennifer Flowers, with many other accusations. While his actions have little to do with Hillary's campaign, Hillary's brutal remarks to these women I think cannot be overlooked considering her comments towards Trump.

Trump has his own issues with relationships and comments. It's probably one can of worms that his entire property collection could not contain. And one that none of us probably have the stomach to handle.

So in summation, per usual I'm not a fan of either of our characters here. I suspect Hillary's not nearly as bad as Trump in the topic at hand, but I wish our country could find some more respectable people. I don't think we should have to settle for a lesser evil, so to speak.
This point keeps coming up, but whenever I've looked into it, there isn't much there ... certainly not what I'd label as "brutal."

But I'm open to evidence. If you're up for it, give me an example of what you consider a brutal remark.
 

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Poor Kellyanne. After trying to foist Todd "Legitimate Rape" Akin on the good people of Missouri, she is now trying to polish the turd that is Donald Trump. She must wake up every morning with a sinking feeling in her stomach. SHe used to be a sane Republican; what the hell happened?
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CNN pays well.
Campaign surrogates do not get paid when appearing on network or cable news. Cable networks do retain Republican and Democratic strategists on their payroll.
 
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Poor Kellyanne. After trying to foist Todd "Legitimate Rape" Akin on the good people of Missouri, she is now trying to polish the turd that is Donald Trump. She must wake up every morning with a sinking feeling in her stomach. SHe used to be a sane Republican; what the hell happened?
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Campaign surrogates do not get paid when appearing on network or cable news. Cable networks do retain Republican and Democratic strategists on their payroll.
 

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This point keeps coming up, but whenever I've looked into it, there isn't much there ... certainly not what I'd label as "brutal."

But I'm open to evidence. If you're up for it, give me an example of what you consider a brutal remark.
I keep asking that, too. I've mentioned it in a few threads. I've tweeted to news networks asking where the proof is. There is nothing. As far as I know, Hillary behaved much better than most wives would upon finding out their husbands had cheated on them.
 

citizenzen

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I keep asking that, too. I've mentioned it in a few threads. I've tweeted to news networks asking where the proof is. There is nothing. As far as I know, Hillary behaved much better than most wives would upon finding out their husbands had cheated on them.
I should really look into it more. So far I've found a campaign staff member (not HRC) who used the term, "bimbo eruptions," and a 2010 email from HRC to a friend that used the term "looney tunes," to describe Monica Lewinsky. I do believe there are more quotes re: Paula Jones and Bill's earlier trysts, but I haven't yet confirmed it. Anyone providing credible sources is appreciated.

But so far, the quotes fall far short of what I consider to be "brutal remarks."
 

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Ouch! Lol. She can usually talk her way out of situations, but he definitely got her.
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Why does she put herself through that? No amount of money is worth this, she's gotten plenty already and can afford to pack it in, she's lost nearly all her dignity already.
She's a pollster. She knows DAMN well Trump is going to lose badly! Hell, new polls out today have him down NINE (9) points in Ohio and early voting starts RIGHT NOW; on top of that, he's tied in UTAH!
 
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I should really look into it more. So far I've found a campaign staff member (not HRC) who used the term, "bimbo eruptions," and a 2010 email from HRC to a friend that used the term "looney tunes," to describe Monica Lewinsky. I do believe there are more quotes re: Paula Jones and Bill's earlier trysts, but I haven't yet confirmed it. Anyone providing credible sources is appreciated.

But so far, the quotes fall far short of what I consider to be "brutal remarks."
Like many of the so-called scandals, if you repeat it often enough, it becomes the truth. Just look at the tripe from Wikileaks they tried to turn into scandals.
 
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citizenzen

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I keep asking that, too. I've mentioned it in a few threads. I've tweeted to news networks asking where the proof is. There is nothing. As far as I know, Hillary behaved much better than most wives would upon finding out their husbands had cheated on them.
This from NYTimes ...
Outwardly, she [HRC] remained stoic and defiant, defending her husband while a progression of women and well-funded conservative operatives accused Mr. Clinton of behavior unbecoming the leader of the free world.

But privately, she embraced the Clinton campaign’s aggressive strategy of counterattack: Women who claimed to have had sexual encounters with Mr. Clinton would become targets of digging and discrediting — tactics that women’s rights advocates frequently denounce.

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/10/03/us/politics/hillary-bill-clinton-women.html?_r=2
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In a pattern that would later be repeated with other women, the investigator’s staff scoured Arkansas and beyond, collecting disparaging accounts from ex-boyfriends, employers and others who claimed to know Ms. Flowers, accounts that the campaign then disseminated to the news media.

By the time Mr. Clinton finally admitted to “sexual relations” with Ms. Flowers, years later, Clinton aides had used stories collected by the private investigator to brand her as a “bimbo” and a “pathological liar.”
And the kicker ...
Mrs. Clinton’s level of involvement in that effort, as described in interviews, internal campaign records and archives, is still the subject of debate. By some accounts, she gave the green light and was a motivating force; by others, her support was no more than tacit assent.

Her campaign also released statements from James Carville, Mr. Clinton’s top campaign strategist, and two lawyers who worked for Mr. Clinton, saying that Mrs. Clinton had not overseen the counterattacks.

“Those who took the lead in responding to those attacks at the time have plainly stated that Hillary Clinton did not direct their work,” Mr. Fallon said.

“Hillary wanted us to defend the governor against attacks,” Mr. Carville’s statement said, adding: “It’s just ridiculous to imagine that she was somehow directing our response operation. That was my job, not hers.”
 
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