Android smart phone shipments grow 886% year-on-year in Q2 2010

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  1. LondonCentral macrumors 6502

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  2. Consultant macrumors G5

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    Not really surprisingly because people in Q2 are all waiting for iPhone 4.

    Plus the buy 1 get 1 free promotions that lost verizon money in the same quarter, which is a temporary thing unless they want to keep losing money to buy market share.

    If Apple gives away iPhones for free, the market share will increase even more rapidly too.
     
  3. aethelbert macrumors 601

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    What, and it wouldn't have been the same case last year? Does the splurge of millions of iPhones sold at the end of the quarter not count for anything? They're comparing Q210 to Q209.

    Losing them money just like subsidies in general do. They'll regain it over the term lengths of the contracts.
     
  4. PerfSeeker macrumors 6502a

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    So what? AAPL continues to make the lions share of profits in this area and any other area they compete in.
     
  5. Dagless macrumors Core

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    Like speakers,
    batteries,
    peripherals,
    OS sales,
    TV streamers,
    web hosting,
    and wireless routers.

    Apple does some MP3 players and phones very well, they don't seem to have that grip in "any other area they compete in".
     
  6. PerfSeeker macrumors 6502a

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    - smartphones(iPhone)
    - premium PCs($1000+)
    - music players(iPod)
    - consumer tablets(iPad)
    - portable gaming/media devices(iPod touch)

    in these areas AAPL is absolutely dominating the profits picture.
     
  7. maflynn Moderator

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    It's called a loss leader and retail has been doing this,ever since there was retail. Besides, they're not really losing money, but rather gaining customers.
     
  8. kdarling macrumors demi-god

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    True. Same as when RIM sales dipped when the Storm 2 and Tour were coming out.

    A difference this past year was that Android also did better in Q1.

    Heck, ATT's stock went down when they first revealed how much debt they had taken on with iPhone subsidies.

    BOGO means two customers have to sign up for two year smartphone contracts. That's an overall gain for VZW.

    That's what happened in Japan. The iPhone sold terribly until the carriers began giving them away. Some carriers in the UK do the same or close.

    For the iPhone 4, ATT gave very early upgrades to millions, which cost a lot of money. So, BOGO or early upgrade, which is costlier?
     
  9. Rodimus Prime macrumors G4

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    Not a good argument using the Q2 waiting for iPhone4. What you compare is Q2 last year to Q2 of this year. iPhone had very little growth in terms of market share. I do not see it growing much more in market share.

    Also the manufactures are not the ones giving out the phones for free but the service providers. The manufacture are making a killing.
    In the US AT&T gives out CRAP promotions on all of their phones compared to the others.

    Just figured I would point out the huge holes in your theory.
     
  10. *LTD* macrumors G4

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    Google's strategy is to flood the market with a lot of flotsam and jetsam because no single Android phone can outsell the iPhone. Hardly impressive. Apple's *single* phone (or two, at most) commands 25% US share. Now THAT is impressive.
     
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    You say flotsam and jetsam. I say 'choice'

    I know - I know - 'choice' is a radical concept for someone so religious aligned to Apple such as yourself. 'Choice' is when consumers are given a range of options of features and prices and sizes and so on, from which they can choose. They can also choose different networks.

    I know - it's crazy isn't it. Giving people a choice like that.

    It's so crazy - I actually bought a DroidX.

    And whilst you may not want such a phone, I find it a far far better phone than the 3GS I used for many months - it also has this other totally crazy concept....

    ...it lets me do what I want, rather than what some guy in a polo shirt says I can.

    I know - it just keeps getting more and more insane.

    One day - you'll grow up and realize just how ludicrous your posting pattern is in this place. I wish I could be there to see that dawn of realization on your face.
     
  12. Dagless macrumors Core

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    I like how Google (or whoever manufactures them) release phones more frequently than Apple. I can't buy an iPhone 4 as it stands because of the antenna problem - so I'm left waiting another year for a usable iPhone.

    On the other hand

    If another manufacturer (Nokia, RIM, Motorola) released a faulty phone we could expect a new model in 6 months. I prefer choice too.
     
  13. maflynn Moderator

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    At least those flotsam and jetsam can make phone calls :rolleyes:

    Also if you compared what those phones have for features, they exceed what the iPhone has as well.
     
  14. *LTD* macrumors G4

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    The game aint about stuffing phones full of "features."

    Apple has proven this with their one or two models of phones that drive the entire industry.
     
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    Indeed, it's about using anti-competitive business practices to lock consumers into a fad.
     
  16. neiltc13 macrumors 68040

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    Google doesn't manufacture or market the phones (with the exception of Nexus One, which wasn't nearly as successful as some of the other Android handsets on the market right now). The main manufacturers of Android phones are HTC, Samsung and Sony Ericsson. However, anyone can make an Android phone - the operating system is open source.

    The only people who should be bothered by which company is profiting most are shareholders. If you don't own Apple stock then I fail to see how the profit made on each device affects you.

    The main thing this article shows is that in Q2 2010 more Android phones were sold than iOS phones. That's important to me as a user because it means that Android is gaining ground and it's likely that more applications are going to be developed for it.
     
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    One feature I like on all my phones is the ability to make phone calls. And if it's not about adding features, then why the new camera, FacePalm, I mean FaceTime, and the app store? Why did Apple add those if it's not important?

    They are really driving the industry alright; they are driving their competitors to the top with their bad antenna designs.
     
  18. maflynn Moderator

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    Android adds features, its called stuffing full of features, apple does it, its called innovation :rolleyes:
     
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    Who buys mobile phones as a means to make phone calls? *raises hand*
     
  20. maflynn Moderator

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    Not if you buy an iphone 4 :p
     
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    I'm not saying it's right, but Apple isn't the first and won't be the last to do this... In fact I can easily see Google pulling a similar model down the road some time, should they establish a larger foothold and steady product-based revenue streams. It's only a matter of time, and usually correlates well with fat revenue streams and greater influence through sheer size. All companies seek to be anti-competitive in the end, its the very nature of a company-- you're trying to capture consumers to buy your product and services, and in the end it will always lead to pushing the legal boundaries as far as possible.

    Furthermore, Apple has and probably will always have a very closed ecosystem; it's seen as anti-competitive I suppose, but they're not cutting people slick deals and paying people off to support their products. Had you wanted to talk about that in regards to media sales and acquisitions, not phones, then I would have to agree. In fact, Apple's not offering BOGOs and what not, and in doing so is being less competitive, but not anti competitive. You're always free to go elsewhere. Of course at this point everyone cites that you can't use what you purchased on the iPhone elsewhere, at least in terms of Apps. They cite this as being anti-competitive, when in fact they're just not being logical. It's no different than buying PS for Mac and then expecting it to work under windows... its no less irrational or unjustifiable of an expectation on a phone.

    Also, I wouldn't call the iDevices a fad; its clearly proven itself otherwise thus far. Had it not been around for so long, I'd agree, but at this point you really can't call any of their mobile products "fads," especially given the bountiful competition that also has a fair amount of success dependent on what's in vogue at the time.
     
  22. *LTD* macrumors G4

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    Except the fad's here to stay, as usual, and in this case commands 20%+ of the US market with only one model of phone (or at most, two.) on ONE US carrier, with the also rans trying desperately to duplicate that "fad."

    Now what?
     
  23. aethelbert macrumors 601

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    It's here to stay so long as a) people are locked in with all of the hardware/software that has been purchased and/or b) the iPhone doesn't get behind the curve or go out of style. Face it, b will eventually happen

    This is the result of being #1 in any market, indeed, but it doesn't mean that it's good for consumers. Certainly the next platform to follow the iPhone as the dominant force in this evolving industry will have very little variance in practices.
     
  24. *LTD* macrumors G4

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    Seems like it is EXACTLY what consumers want. Hence the sales. We're not talking Windows/PC lock-in here, we're talking consumers *choosing* the iPhone. Whether it's what *you* want is an entirely different story.
     
  25. aethelbert macrumors 601

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    It's exactly what they want now, yes, but once something new becomes the thing to have, it won't be.

    Oh wait, the iPhone and its derivatives will reign sovereign through the end of time.
     

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