Another race to watch, the Georgia governor's race

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  1. JayMysterio macrumors 6502a

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    Why?

    Well, it seems most secretaries of state who decided to run for governor, step down. Why? Because it doesn't always look good when you're the one in charge of elections, if you yourself are in it. How so?

    https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entr...emp-stacey-abrams_us_5bbe435fe4b0876edaa4d908

    Who's Brian Kemp?

    https://slate.com/news-and-politics...ds-on-erasing-the-black-vote-its-working.html

    https://www.nytimes.com/2018/08/11/opinion/sunday/brian-kemp-enemy-of-democracy.html

    In case you forgot where you may have heard of this Secretary of State, perhaps this will jog your memory.

    Now this guy with a history of mass voter purges ( but not letting those affected know ), various other forms of suppression, and destroying information about possible hacking, is at it again in a race he is involved in.

    How important is any possible voters ( seemingly for his opponent Abrams ) prevented from voting?

    https://thehill.com/blogs/blog-brie...l-republican-brian-kemp-holds-2-point-lead-in

     
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    Gonna go do early voting. Govenor, Secretary of State and my local Representative are all on the ballot this November.
     
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    I just found out about this earlier in the morning. This is a sham, and a total joke. It wouldn't even be conceivable to me that this would be allowed.

    The election laws in this country may mean that when Trump is no longer on a ballot, I won't vote. It's pointless, in a way. I've kind of teetered on why some traditional voter laws should be allowed but others not, and at the end of the day its. things like this that make me upset.

    Here's the Pennsylvania House Republican Leader admitting they passed Voter ID laws for the purpose of helping Romney win in 2012 - not making sure votes are legit;



    But, who cares, right?
     
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    Gotta vote anyway.
     
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    Just additional confirmation that the GOP doesn't care about voter integrity. Just quashing Democratic voters, especially Black voters.
     
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    It's kinda old news to the Libertarians out there. The Republicans, besides disenfranchising voters, routinely do the same to third party candidates across the nation. They either make laws that insure it is harder for anyone but Dems and Reps to run, or routinely engage in illegal acts to disallow competition. We have to fight them every election year in many states and I've lost track of the numerous lawsuits filed against them. The Dems do it, too but to a lesser degree, most of the time. They will do anything to ensure they win, by hook or by crook.
     
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    :mad:

    https://www.theroot.com/black-senior-citizens-in-georgia-ordered-off-bus-taking-1829809480

     
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    Just a quick reminder on some of the blatant chicanery going on...




    If you think Trevor's idea is too far fetched, always remember this...



    Oh yeah, we haven't gotten to North Dakota yet...
     
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    About North Dakota, a quick primer...

    https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/north-dakota-native-american-voters/

    When the restrictions began...

    All of this, to solve a problem that still hasn't been proven to exist to the degree to warrant any of this blatant chicanery.

    So...

    https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2018/10/11/17961756/courts-voter-id-north-dakota-missouri



    Oh, and completely unrelated this can't be true right?

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    https://www.cnn.com/2018/10/15/us/slavery-vote-in-colorado-trnd/index.html

    Yes.
     
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    Sadly, the Constitution (13th Amendment) allows for it. We need to amend that. People convicted in courts are often enslaved and forced to work for corporations in prison sweatshops. As far as I know no-one other than Libertarians have spoken out about it. Getting rid of it in Colorado will not end it at the Federal level. Only amending the 13th will do that.

    "Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude, except as a punishment for crime whereof the party shall have been duly convicted, shall exist within the United States, or any place subject to their jurisdiction."
     
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    Ron Paul - who I think was more sane than his son.. Trump neutered a lot of the outspoken right or independents - was more ridiculed by conservatives than liberals.

    I for sure don't agree with everything he said, but he said a lot I do agree with. I didn't even know this whole thing was a "thing". I guess I expect too much from our country at this point. Trump has sure proven me wrong about a LOT of things in the last three or four years.
     
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    Yeah, nothing shady here...

    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/oct/19/georgia-governor-race-voter-suppression-brian-kemp

     
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    Micheal Moore has spoken out about prison labour 20 years ago.
     
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    Pretty sure that African Americans have been criticizing this for decades. As has tons of progressives/liberals/"leftists" that has lead to their being mocked by those on the right.
     
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    GOP gubernatorial candidate Kemp is concerned that people on the opposing side are exercising their right to vote. Bet he's wishing he had managed to disenfranchise even more of them. Lots of absentee ballots are coming in and he doesn't care for that. Wonder how many he'll try to disqualify?

    https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/brian-kemp-leaked-audio-georgia-voting-745711/

     
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    Could certainly happen, as there is also a Libertarian candidate on the ballot, too. Too many people out there are willing to let it happen in the name of stopping statistically non-existent "voter fraud". But what it's really about is disenfranchising their opponents.
     
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    Finally a little good news...

    https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/el...s-without-letting-n924011?cid=sm_npd_nn_tw_ma

     
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    Yet one more example, of many out there, of Republicans doing everything they can to win, regardless of the ethical considerations or the legality.
     
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    I think it's a bit silly to think that these people will follow the courts decision. No one is there to actually ensure compliance. With the antics of Kris Kobach nakedly available for the world to see, nothing changed there. He's very likely to become governor regardless of how the vote actually goes.

    Unless we reform our election processes to do away with these insecure by design computers it's always going to be the snakes of either party who win, unless the vote tallies +10 points or more to overcome these tactics.

    Everyone should be required to read Greg Palast's last 10 years of election coverage. He goes into the nitty gritty that none of the corporate media seem to cover (wonder why?).
     
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    For those of you unaware of the situation in North Dakota, here's the quick rundown...
    https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/nat...fight-protect-voting-rights/story?id=58585206

    Here's a Twitter story to explain how much of a pain the butt it is for Native Americans, and why these laws were intentionally crafted.


    I previously did link to him, because he has been covering this.
     
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    Sorry, let me clarify. I know that you have linked to him in a recent post, I think I even responded to it. That comment was not aimed at you. When I do a full break line in a post that's my way of moving to a different thought (the original one being a direct response to you, the later ones being my continuation of the discussion to the forum at large).

    I know that you, being a reader on the other end of a screen, have no way of knowing that so my apologies for not being explicit in where my response to you ends and my comments in general begins. Sorry about that :oops:
     
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    ...yeah, being in charge of elections, flushing registrations wholesale, trying to quash mail-in balloting because it does not benefit you, when you decide to run for Governor. Completely corrupt, a knife in the back of Democracy, but maybe you’ll win so all is good. Is it Trump or the GOP virus? :oops::mad:
     
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    Well...

    You can't have good news without some bad news. Remember this from the start of the thread?

    That's back to rear it's ugly suspect head possibly...
    https://www.theroot.com/black-voters-in-georgia-say-something-funny-is-going-on-1829979736

    Yup. They were warned about old & possibly defective machines, but instead Kemp was more worried about fixing a problem no one's identified as being genuinely real.

    :mad:
     

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