Anti-capitalist demonstrators rampage across Seattle!


BoxerGT2.5

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I'd put every single one of them on a plane to Miami, put them on a dingy and point south and tell them they got 90 miles to the promise land.
 
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SHNXX

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They're free to deport themselves to North Korea anytime.
I'm sure Mr. Kim will be happy to incorporate them into a utopian non-capitalist society.
 

NT1440

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As usual, the cops surround protestors, force them to move while blocking off the ability to go where instructed, fire flash bangs into the crowd, and people wonder how things turn violent.

America needs to wake the **** up. Crowd control isn't enclosing protesters and provoking them.

But as usual, no one here cares about how things escalated.
 

SHNXX

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As usual, the cops surround protestors, force them to move while blocking off the ability to go where instructed, fire flash bangs into the crowd, and people wonder how things turn violent.

America needs to wake the **** up. Crowd control isn't enclosing protesters and provoking them.

But as usual, no one here cares about how things escalated.
Yeah, the cops are the problems in our society, not the criminals.
 

NT1440

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Yeah, the cops are the problems in our society, not the criminals.
Read the last sentence of the article. I sincerely doubt any changes have been made to the police department since that report came out.

Riot cops escalate situations, by training.
 

SHNXX

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Read the last sentence of the article. I sincerely doubt any changes have been made to the police department since that report came out.

Riot cops escalate situations, by training.
I'm sorry, but what is "that report"?

I think the reason why riot police is not nice to rioters is because they're rioting.
 
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Well, the trust-fund kiddies are at it again: destroying private property, biting cops, and raging against corporations like Starbucks.

Tomorrow, they'll remove the face-scarves, pull on their Che t-shirts, and get back to whining about free tuition and stuff over lattes at Starbucks.
Reminds me of the Commie Kids we had here in Chattanooga. You could always spot them from a mile away, because they were always texting their latest anti-capitalist diatribes from their brand new iPhone while wearing always trendy Converse sneakers.

I think they all eventually became bored of tipping over dumpsters behind restaurants, and got jobs working for TVA.
 
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SHNXX

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Jesus.

Here's the single click you would have needed from the OP article to get a summary of the report:

http://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/spd-should-rethink-use-of-blast-balls-to-disperse-crowds-report-says/
blast balls!
they sound like a fun way to discourage rioters from rioting.

but seriously, yes i agree that lots of policemen do go overboard and sometimes kill people.
when they do, we have a judicial system which is designed to punish bad behavior.

but when the police does a perfectly reasonable job and is taken to trial by race-baiting *******s, this shifts public opinion.

body cams in addition to the ubiquity of phone cameras do help though.
 

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Most riot cops these days are trained to act as a wall, nothing more. They corral the riot, limiting the damage, but otherwise allow the rioters to continue on unabated until they run out of steam.

...though as your link shows, not everyone chooses to follow the rulebook.
The problem is the rulebook is rarely followed. Such as using riot police to patrol just plain vanilla demonstrations.

Riot police are supposed to be there at a riot, not before one even occurs.
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blast balls!
they sound like a fun way to discourage rioters from rioting.

but seriously, yes i agree that lots of policemen do go overboard and sometimes kill people.
when they do, we have a judicial system which is designed to punish bad behavior.


but when the police does a perfectly reasonable job and is taken to trial by race-baiting *******s, this shifts public opinion.

body cams in addition to the ubiquity of phone cameras do help though.
I agree body cams will help, as long as the data isn't locked away by third party private companies (Taser is the biggest right now).

That said, the underlined is laughable, what America have you been living in? You've got cops whom were fired with a personal letter from their CO's saying they weren't fit for any type of police duty, getting hired by a different department ignoring the warnings, who then kill a child within two seconds of arriving at the scene (breaking all training protocol by driving directly up to a suspect with a gun, seriously cop or not who the **** drives up to who they think is an armed person?) and nothing happens.
 

Renzatic

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The problem is the rulebook is rarely followed. Such as using riot police to patrol just plain vanilla demonstrations.

Riot police are supposed to be there at a riot, not before one even occurs.
I'd say it's followed more of than not. The riot cops didn't exacerbate the situations in Baltimore or Ferguson. They did exactly what they were supposed to do, which was contain, and only go proactive when it's absolutely called for. If they went all out and starting firing into the crowds in order to contain them as quickly as possible, our political situation would be much, much different today.
 

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I'd say it's followed more of than not. The riot cops didn't exacerbate the situations in Baltimore or Ferguson. They did exactly what they were supposed to do, which was contain, and only go proactive when it's absolutely called for. If they went all out and starting firing into the crowds in order to contain them as quickly as possible, our political situation would be much, much different today.
Really, because there were articles where the riot police weren't doing what they're supposed to do.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2014/11/25/ferguson-riots-police-response/70102410/

There were stories where the riot cops in Ferguson would fire tear gas on the press as well.

http://www.businessinsider.com/police-fire-tear-gas-on-al-jazeera-america-tv-crew-and-then-take-their-equipment-2014-8

Even Amnesty International got involved.

https://news.vice.com/article/amnesty-intl-denounces-human-rights-abuses-in-ferguson-as-police-gather-riot-gear-ahead-of-grand-jury-decision
 

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Anti-capitalism? Lordy, anybody under eighty years old has seen almost none of real capitalism. We've been nowhere near any sort of free market in forty forevers. Probably the closest to it would be a local farmer's market, gun/coin show or a flea market. Otherwise it's a mix of socialism, fascism and corporatocracy.
 
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