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Discussion in 'Politics, Religion, Social Issues' started by lostngone, Sep 11, 2013.
Good Job, Colorado!
I really want to give a constructive comment about this but honestly, I don't think it would matter much considering the hard ideological stance our gun nut friends have.
Good! The politicians should represent the beliefs of those who elected them. Considering I've never even held a gun I don't fall under the gun nut classification either.
Since when does advocating gun control measures make you "anti-gun"?
If you advocate for traffic laws, are you "anti-car"?
It's interesting to note that party lines did not sway any votes.
I think not allowing the constituents to speak at town meetings didn't help either. The standard practice is to let any constituents who wish to speak, speak.
Instead they tried to push these bills through.
I just had the thought that this implies that people advocating for voter IDs are "anti-voting."
I truly hope those citizens aren't so single minded that their vote was dependent on friggin gun legislation. We've got way more on our plate.
Sad that the people of Colorado recalled their senators for trying to make it harder for criminals to murder people.
I think they were speaking out more about how they went about doing business.
The numbers showed that strong Democrat supporters also voted for the recall.
Meanwhile in California ...
I'd have limited it to six.
But I guess I can compromise.
Compromise? On gun laws? Don't be silly....
The gun-worship is getting out of control. I don't trust gun worship nuts, especially those who don't want stricter measures like increased background checks.
A guy I know who was CONVICTED of armed robbery legally bought a gun when he got out of prison. How is that possible!? (And, he's back in prison).
Don't get me wrong, I don't mind people having guns, but I DO remind irresponsible gun nuts having guns. If safety isn't someones first priority with a firearm they shouldn't have one.
No, just anti-poor-people.
With protracted voter apathy, only social issues bring enough people to the poles anymore. And with viewer apathy, only the difference of social voting gets shown anymore.
Good for Colorado.
Why do you think there is voter apathy?
Two reasons. The figure I saw most recently suggested that the turnout for this vote was less than two-thirds that of the last regular election (I do not have an actual cite yet, will wait for official numbers), but more importantly, nothing really changed, the state senate will remain in the hands of the D's, so I can see why a lot of people just would not care.
So are you saying that the people who didn't vote for that politician should not have a voice after the politician is elected? If so, this recall should never have taken place.
They should have let their voice be heard.
It wasn't the case here.
In fact, people who were against the bills weren't given time to speak.
Democrats voted for the recall as well.
What does that tell you?
That's this is a political process issue, not a gun control issue?
That if there wasn't equal representation and appropriate debate from both sides regarding the bills, then there should have been a suit opened to have an injunction thrown on the bill.
Not trying to defend the senators here, but was there anything done by the senators to be cause for impeachment? If not, I can only assume that this recall was voter initiated (read: petition).
While the gun legislation was a large part of it, I don't think it was the sole reason for the recall. In addition to the gun laws passed, the Colorado Legislature passed laws to give illegal aliens in-state tuition at state colleges and to give drivers licenses to illegals.
I'm glad both were recalled.
Correct, this was a voter initiated recall. They got enough verified signatures in districts 3 & 11 to force a recall vote.
Kudos to your fellow Coloradans!
Agreed. I don't live in either district so I didn't get a chance to vote. However, I would have voted for the recall.
Politics have become personal, people now vote the way they shop - how will spending this dollar/vote make me feel better or prevent me from feeling worse? Most of the time, there just isn't a payoff. And with only half of us showing up much of the time:
...It's easier for single issues to sway the whole ballot. Just 5% more (10% of non voters) excited about something to go to the polls, is often enough.
BTW, the other way to improve participation is making voting easier, but even then, 60% is considered 'high':