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Discussion in 'Community Discussion' started by waloshin, Dec 12, 2009.
Examples of newer ones: Cannibal Corpse, Trivium, White Chapel and Chimaira?
didnt the genre start in the late 70's ?
Rock music just started in the 50's, the main ones were little richard and elvis. You didn't have metal until the late 70's like the above poster said.
lol its like asking for rock and roll bands from the 1800's
op: genres havent always been around
death metal was certainly not in the era of leave it to beaver lol
Even if it didn't, who would listen to 1940's death metal?
It would problaby be German.
Anyway, you're way off, OP. The genres of extreme metal wasn't explored until the early '80s, actually, starting with bands like Slayer and to a less extent Metallica. Venom was the first band to have anything classified as Black Metal, although the general genre itself developed during the late '80s and early '90s with the Norwegian Black Metal scene. If you're looking for early metal, look in the directions of Black Sabbath, Deep Purple and Led Zeppelin.
The earliest of metal I can think of was an offshoot of psychedelic rock in the 60's--Iron Butterfly.
1968 - Tony Iommi
Many accidents resulted in the sound heard today.
Possibly the first example of a distorted guitar resulted when Kings of Rhythm guitarist Willie Kizart used a guitar amplifier that had been left out in the rain overnight; the result can be heard on the 1950s recording of "Rocket 88". Also around that same time, there were some incidences where rough handling of the tube amplifiers would cause one of the tubes (or 'valves') to dislodge; the resultant sound was so desired by both performers and listeners, that Fender began producing amps that would "over drive" the pre-amplifier circuit into the main amplifier circuit, with good effect.
About a decade later, due to a severe injury to his right hand (he fretted with his right as he was a 'left-handed' guitarist), Iommi detuned his guitar down one, possibly two steps to aid in his diminished ability to fret; this can be readily observed by listening to the first two albums from Black Sabbath (formerly known as The Polka Tulk Blues Company - no kidding!)
In a conversation Tony had with Terry Butler, the bassist suggested writing and performing "scary music", as they departed the bluesy sound of Polka Tulk and renaming themselves after the 1963 Boris Karloff film.
And the rest, as they say, is history.
Well, you have the early thrash like Benny Goodman and Glen Miller. Miles Davis started adding some of that death feel in the late 40s and things really picked up with Dizzy Gillespie and 'The Bird' in the 50s...
Parker was dead by '55. He and "The Diz" (and others) influenced Miles, rather than the opposite.
I consider Black Sabbath founders of the true metal sound. Judas Priest is considered by many as the first "heavy metal" band. IMO, Slayer created the death metal sound, which was early to mid 80's.
OP: Speaking of Cannibal Corpse, I just watched Ace Ventura Pet Detective yesterday. It always cracks me up when Ace jumps on stage at the Cannibal Corpse concert while they are playing Hammer Smashed Face.
1940s death metal would be hillarious.
You got to be kidding...
Are you for serious? You can't be, either you are joking of a really slow-learner.
So, which is it?
Oh god, I actually laughed at the thought.
Dead and His Decapitators?
Frank Sinatra? Wasn't he the king of metal in the 40's?
It's a little known fact that Glenn Miller was working on a death metal album when his plan disappeared. It really was too sad, as it probably would have been an awesome album.
You think Slayer was death metal? I always put them down as thrash... To me Death Metal would be more along the Lines of "Death", "Obituary" and a few other ones that came out of Florida and Europe in the early 80's.
For rock and roll... I would also list the Kinks. If I remember correctly, they got some of there sound from cutting holes in the speakers. To give it the distortion sound.
Some funny comments in this thread.
But really I think Heilage did a decent job of summing up the history of speed/thrash metal or regular heavy metal. Slayer opened the door but they were never death metal.
Funny you bring that up, I was with Cannibal Corpse the night Ace Ventura: Pet Detective came out on DVD back in '97. You should have seen those guys, they were so excited! They thought they were famous movies stars, I had to tease them a little before giving Chris Barnes directions to a video store in Downtown Minneapolis.
Exactly, the mid-80's Florida death metal scene was unbelievable. I personally consider "Scream Bloody Gore" (87) as the first proper death metal album but I suppose one could argue Nepalm's early stuff death metal, it always had a more punk feel to me.
Me to... or more along the lines of what some might call grind core or grind gore depending on the content of what you were singing. Between Scream Bloody Gore (One of my favorite albums) and Obituary's "Slowly we Rot and Cause of Death"... these albums are what defined death metal for me anyways.
I think death metal really got its start with Mercyful Fate they weren't too powerful but were dark, melodic, and excellent as storytellers if you bothered with the lyrics at all. King Diamond of course was a very grim soloist afterwards.
But for me Death Metal also has to have the cookie gutteral voice to go with it. Mercyful Fate/King Diamond was more along the lines of Heavy Metal due to his voice.
This flow chart may be of some assistance:
Without sounding like a complete dick but what made you think of this question but i think the others are rite it generated in the 80's due to thrash bands.
I guess this is as close as you're going to get