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Rick Friele

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Jan 6, 2004
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Anyone here use kismac? Do you use a GPS device in conjunction with it? Looking into a cheap USB GPS device that will work with kismac.
 

abhishekit

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Nov 6, 2003
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i have kismac, but i dont have a gps device, even I was thinking of buying one. i looked at the ones from Garmin.you can check it out. but kismac wdnt work in passive mode with AE, so eventually i decided against it..
 

Rick Friele

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Jan 6, 2004
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Henderson, NV
abhishekit said:
i have kismac, but i dont have a gps device, even I was thinking of buying one. i looked at the ones from Garmin.you can check it out. but kismac wdnt work in passive mode with AE, so eventually i decided against it..
I just have the basic airport card (B).
 

Stevp1

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Dec 8, 2003
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Does anyone know if Kismac will work with the built-in airport stuff on the PB's? I loaded it, and the driver that I understood to be the correct one, but it won't even see my wifi network at home, let alone any others in the area. It also seems to have affected Macstumbler, as that used to see my network, but now neither will. Any suggestions?
 

Rick Friele

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Henderson, NV
Stevp1 said:
Does anyone know if Kismac will work with the built-in airport stuff on the PB's? I loaded it, and the driver that I understood to be the correct one, but it won't even see my wifi network at home, let alone any others in the area. It also seems to have affected Macstumbler, as that used to see my network, but now neither will. Any suggestions?
It will work with the Apple Extreme cards, but only in Active mode. If you want to run in Passive mode you need either an external card or a regular Airport card. As far as conflicting with MacStumbler I am not sure. I prefer kismac over MacStumbler. It sees my network as <hidden ssid>. MacStumbler can't see hidden networks from what I understand unless that has changed in a newer version.
 

aswitcher

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Oct 8, 2003
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Rick Friele said:
I prefer kismac over MacStumbler. It sees my network as <hidden ssid>. MacStumbler can't see hidden networks from what I understand unless that has changed in a newer version.

Do you use kismac with a card in your powerbook? If so what card? and can you run your AE whilst running the card in passive mode?
 

Rick Friele

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Jan 6, 2004
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Henderson, NV
aswitcher said:
Do you use kismac with a card in your powerbook? If so what card? and can you run your AE whilst running the card in passive mode?
I have an iBook with a regular airport (not extreme) card. Basically kismac unloads Apple's airport driver and loads their own. I can't use my airport while it's in passive mode. I don't really need to anyway because I am just driving around anyway. To load the default driver back I just log out and back in.

Still looking for some people who use kismac with a GPS device.
 

Calvinatir

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Nov 8, 2003
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any reason why when im using KisMac i never pick up any packets? Its bothering me. Just seing if you guys had this problem as well...
 

tomf87

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If you are using an Airport Extreme card, you must use Active mode, which means you won't be able to pick up packets.

The original Airport cards can be used in passive mode, which means they are in promiscuous mode, and can capture packets.
 

Earendil

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Oct 27, 2003
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tomf87 said:
If you are using an Airport Extreme card, you must use Active mode, which means you won't be able to pick up packets.

The original Airport cards can be used in passive mode, which means they are in promiscuous mode, and can capture packets.

Is this because there is no software support in KisMac, or a fundamental difference in the design of the AE card?

Tyler
Earendil - AE User...
 

xalex1

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May 15, 2004
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Airport

Same here, i got PB with airport extreme, and cant see anythig at home, It might be because ther isnt any networks around. , whats the diffrenece between passive mode and active mode ? O and what is the gps used for here ? Is there any other program that will work with airport extreme ?
 

titaniumducky

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Nov 22, 2003
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I tried it once to see how hard it was to break into a network with a WEP key. I was pleased to find that it wasn't easy enough for anyone to bother to break into my network. I know it could be done, but it's very unlikely that, for the trouble, someone wouldn't opt for one of the nearby open networks.
 

Koodauw

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Nov 17, 2003
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Titaniumducky, were you able to crack the WEP encryption? If so what software did you use to crack it? OR does anyone know of any programs that run in OSX?
 

titaniumducky

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Nov 22, 2003
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Koodauw said:
Titaniumducky, were you able to crack the WEP encryption? If so what software did you use to crack it? OR does anyone know of any programs that run in OSX?

I tried using kisMAC. I collected a bunch of packets, saved them, and had it run the cracker. However, I failed for a while due to kisMAC crashing. Then I got it working but found out it would take a ridiculously long amount of time. That was why I decided no one would be likely to bother to break into my network when other networks of the same speed exist nearby and are open.
 
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