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Discussion in 'Politics, Religion, Social Issues' started by powerbuddy, Nov 4, 2008.
Anyone in Cali with insider information?
Polls close in about half an hour. Not sure who will carry news on that.
Polls close in 30 minutes at 8. No results yet (at least that I know of).
Keep us posted if you can.
Or if there are any websites where we can track this.
Prop 8 - Gay Marriage Ban
2% Precincts Reporting
I'm interested to hear about this too, keep us posted.
EDIT: Just saw it. thanks
Another good site to watch: LA Times (select prop 8 from the "Available Races" dropdown)
5% Precincts Reporting
And Prop 4 which would: "Change the State Constitution to require a doctor to notify the minors parent or guardian at least 48 hours before performing an abortion."
5% Precincts Reporting
AZ Prop 102 also seems to be passing (unfortunately).
Full ballot measures here .
Yes 1,598,117 54%
No 1,348,648 46%
Prop 4 is split 50/50 with 9% in
Ther's still time, but its about 9 right now here in CA so I think its unlikely.
At least, Prop 4 could get voted against.
Amendment 2 passed in florida as well thank goodness, seems to show people really dont want gays being allowed to marry
I'm disgusted that it passed. Religion needs to keep the hell out of the Constitution, like it already says it needs to.
it has nothing to do with religion, a gay couple can not have kids, why bother getting married?
marriage was set up to keep parents together to raise kids
Thanks for the link.
So elderly and infertile couples shouldn't be allowed to marry either?
EDIT: Also, why do people need to be married to have kids? And remember, this has nothing to do with religion. You said so yourself.
i didnt say i believe that i just said thats why marriage was institutionalized as a government thing
It has everything to do with religion, which is the problem. But we already had a thread on that, so let's just keep this one on the results.
CA 8: Ban on Gay Marriage »
13% precincts reporting
CA 4: Abortion Limits »
12% precincts reporting
no, prop 4...i cant believe that one isnt passing, MINOR?!? im completely against abortion (surprise surprise right?), i believe its murder at any stage of preg. but thats not the issue here, i mean damn, the doctors should tell a minors parents they are having it done...why dont we just make all teens legal adults at 12
I'm a Pro-lifer who voted no on Prop 4. I have read articles that say it would inadvertently harm parental rights and hurt homeschoolers (of which I am a graduate).
Disappointed on Prop 8's likely failure. Especially the whole "unfair and wrong" campaign. I honestly can't see what's wrong OR unfair with defining marriage the way it always has been since civilization began. The "for Prop 8" campaign also did some distortion as well, which hurt them. The fact is, Prop 8 is all about 2 things: a definition, and activist judges. Were prop 8 to have passed, gays would have lost absolutely no rights, nor received one minute amount of unfair treatment. And judicial activism would have been put down.
Regardless, it's the way it is.
Judicial activism protects the rights of those in the minority. Brown v. Board of Education is a result of judicial activism, so would you want to see that overturned as well?
I'm shocked that this is passing in super-lefty California...where are all the hippies and socialists?
Joking aside, it's an unfortunate turn of events.
Practically the whole bay area isn't reporting yet. SF County has reported 0% as of right now, so there is still a chance.