just to let any of you know that like Escape Velocity, Ambrosia Software just realeased EV Nova. I downloaded it and it took about five hours(soooooooo much traffic). I would recommend waiting about a week before you try to download it. It is so so so so so much better than the first two versions. The graphics are killer and the ships are super awesome. Try it and you will be adicted. download from www.macgamefiles.com they are less busy than all the other ones I tried.