Anybody got mid-late 80's midi software? I can't find any existing copies.

Discussion in 'Digital Audio' started by tevion5, Apr 11, 2014.

  1. tevion5 macrumors 68000

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    I want to get a copy of something like MOTU Performer 1.2.1 or and early Opcode sequencer.

    Any of these:
    MIDIMAC (sequencer) by opcode systems
    TOTAL MUSIC (sequencer) by southworth music systems
    MEGA TRACK (sequencer) by musicworks
    MIDI COMPOSER (sequencer) by Assimilation
    STUDIO MAC (sequencer) by creative solutions
    DELUXE MUSIC CONSTRUCTION SET (sequencer) by electronic arts
    CONCERTWARE PLUS (sequencer) by passport designs
    MUSICWORKS (sequencer) by macromind inc
    PERFORMER (sequencer) by mark of the unicorn

    I have been searching for some time but can't find old enough versions of ANY of them. I am aware of the experimental 1.1 version of MusicWorks with midi support but that just crashes for me on all my 512Ke, Classic II and Power Mac 8600.

    All the major midi pioneering software seem to be all but lost. I think this is really sad. I am in the process of trying to get in contact with the folk at the present day MOTU to see if they could point me to some archives.

    My 512Ke runs MusicWorks but that lacks MIDI support. I have a MACMAN MIDIMAN interface hooked up to it but no software to run it

    Anybody learned anything I haven't found yet?

    The 68K army guys discussed a similar issue here:
    https://68kmla.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=15&t=1094
     
  2. DPUser macrumors 6502a

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    If you are seeking to open archive files, Digital Performer 8 (current version) will still open files created in the earliest versions of Performer.

    Unfortunately, I don't think I have any discs from V1 anymore.
     
  3. fastlanephil macrumors 6502a

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    There was a late version of Opcode Studio Vision available online a few years ago. I think I have it. I need to install a logic board I bought online for my iMac G5 to run it but I doubt if it will recognize USB/MIDI.
     
  4. Freqsound macrumors newbie

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    I believe I still have my manual and install disks for Performer 1.21 and Total Music. Total Music will not run without the Southworth interface attached to your computer. I can't remember if Performer required a serial number or the actual disk to install properly. Total Music files can also be read by their One-Step sequencer, which did not require the TM interface.

    Many software companies in the mid 80s had a copy protection scheme that required you insert the disk to add or remove an authorization from a drive, and you were usually only allowed 1 or 2 installs. Sometimes a program called Copy ][ Mac could duplicate the early versions of this scheme, but it seemed to change regularly to prevent this.
     
  5. txa1265 macrumors 6502a

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    That was how Performer worked for a long time ... until the death of floppies.

    I have a licensed Digital Performer ... but would honestly be happy going back to an old PPC Powerbook and Performer 6 for what I do ... I should really talk to MOTU about this.
     
  6. jlhowland macrumors newbie

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    any solutions to vintage MIDI sequence software?

    Hi all. I'm a little late to the conversation, but I hope you find this. I'm a pop music prof wanting to resurrect my Mac Plus 1MB for a MIDI class. Unfortunately I saved things like Word but have long since lost my mid-1980s music software. I'd love to get copies of usable Vision or Performer ca. 1986-7. Did any of you find a solution?
     
  7. zimv20 macrumors 601

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    i am super late to this party, but i have such discs:
    • Performer 1.2.2 Master
    • Performer 2.2 Master
    • Professional Composer
    i also have a Total Music Southworth Music Systems interface. not sure if i have the software anywhere, i haven't seen it as i've been going through my old stuff.

    i was thinking about putting my 512ke up on eBay, with all the software (there's a lot more in addition to the above). i have later versions of Performer, as well (3.0, 4.02). i haven't run any of this stuff in years, but the last time i booted the mac it was fine.

    are you still looking for these earlier Performer versions? let me know soon, as stuff is eBay bound shortly.
     
  8. tevion5 thread starter macrumors 68000

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    Buddy, if you could send me disk images of this software you would be my favourite person of the year.

    Also, how feasbale would it be to send me that interface? O.O

    You've given me hope now! I've looked all over different vintage forums for years now with no luck.
     
  9. zimv20 macrumors 601

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    hm, that's pretty tempting :)

    which software exactly? if it's Performer 1.2.2, i can send you the actual floppy. and sure, you can have the interface as well. i found the manual for it, but haven't seen the software. i'm pretty sure i used that interface with Performer, so the software probably doesn't matter (it was a LONG time ago).

    i just ask that you cover shipping from Chicago.
     
  10. tevion5 thread starter macrumors 68000

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    Well I would love to have those things but I'd have to ship them across the Atlantic. Could you get me a quote for shopping to Ireland? If it's not too insane I'm down. :)

    Yes especially 1.2.2. That's a version I know will work on the 512Ke. I'd love to have the other floppies too if they worked with the 512Ke!

    Could you send me images of those disks too? Do you have the appropriate hardware to do that?

    Thanks!
     
  11. zimv20 macrumors 601

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    the shipping prices are higher than i thought. UPS is going to be upwards of $200 USD. the US postal service offers flat rate shipping. for the "large" box, which would be big enough to hold the hardware (but not its original box) is $81.95 USD. (i think that's right; it's the "online" price).

    i'm happy to make images of the floppies, but i don't know how. i do have a USB floppy drive, but i'm running a modern mac (Yosemite). i'm reading that that won't work for those older, non-1.44 MB floppies. e.g.

    http://www.vintage-computer.com/vcforum/archive/index.php/t-32277.html
     
  12. tevion5 thread starter macrumors 68000

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    Ahh to make images you'll need a Mac that has a built in floppy drive. (About anything made before 1998). If you don't have that you won't be able to do it :/ .

    Could you put up pictures of the interface? Especially the cables and ports in the back. I want to see if it's really 512Ke compatible to warrant spending so much on shipping. If not, I would still like to buy those floppy disks from you!

    Thanks again!
     
  13. zimv20 macrumors 601

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    below are the images (if i did it right).

    i was planning on putting my 512ke, software and (if you don't want it) the interface on eBay. software-wise, i will not include Performer v1.2.2 in the sale. regardless of what happens, you can have that.

    DSC_0001.JPG DSC_0002.JPG DSC_0003.JPG DSC_0004.JPG DSC_0005.JPG
     
  14. tevion5 thread starter macrumors 68000

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    Oh wow. After seeing that now I think I want it! It looks very rare as I've never seen anything like it before in all my searching. Almost every interface has the 8 pin din serial ports, not the old DB-9 ones for the 512Ke.

    My girlfriends uncle lives in California, would you be able to ship there for much cheaper?

    Would you be happy to part with this and the floppies for the cost of shipping? I would be incredibly greatful.

    Thanks!
     
  15. zimv20 macrumors 601

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    yes, no worries. that will be much cheaper.

    i've got a bunch of software, like MacPaint, MacWrite, and games. all that stuff was going to go on eBay with the 512ke. If it doesn't sell, i can send that over as well, if you want it. (but i'd like to try eBay first).

    so, if you have no interest in the extra stuff, then i can send the interface and the Performer v1.2.2 disk this week. otherwise, i can wait a few weeks once it all shakes out.

    once we figure out the contents, i can figure out shipping cost, and you can pay me via paypal.

    finally, if you have the ability to make images from those old disks, it would make me happy to see that stuff available to the community, since you were unable to find it. i think it's pretty cool that there are some people who are still using those old tools. i had a very good time making music, back in the day, with that stuff.
     
  16. zimv20 macrumors 601

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    one more thing: i have no idea if that hardware required software to make it work, i.e. drivers or some such. iirc, it came with its own sequencer program, but if i have those disks, i don't know where they are. so it's possible that you could hook up the unit and not be able to use it. there. my butt is covered :)
     
  17. tevion5 thread starter macrumors 68000

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    Actually I have copies of almost all the other software you mention thanks to online content, so you can put that up on eBay no bother!

    Yes the early Performer disks 1.2.2 and did you mention another? As well as the interface. That would be super to get all that!

    Yes absolutely, you can bet your ass the moment I get that floppy the first thing I do will be to make a million copies of it, and the second thing will be to upload it on Macintosh Garden. Pay them back for all I've taken.

    I believe the MIDI Interfaces work with almost any MIDI program and that Apple ensured they were designed like that for ease of use. My only issue is usually getting 1. appropriate software to load and 2. a cable that actually connects to a 512Ke. Performer 1.2.2 and that interface solve both those issues. If I get it up and running I will surely make a youtube video showing off my success!

    Thanks again :)
     
  18. zimv20 macrumors 601

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    MOTU Professional Composer. i see that mac garden has a v1.0 of it. unsure what version i have, i don't think it says on the floppy. shall i include that?

    go ahead and PM me the address in CA. i'll start putting stuff in a box and get a shipping quote. how important is it that i include the Southworth box (it's in one of the pics)? if i omit it, i can fit everything into a smaller box. i think the USPS flat rate large box will do (it's not very big), and iirc that's about $18 USD.
     
  19. tevion5 thread starter macrumors 68000

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    If you could include:
    • Performer 1.2.2 Master
    • Performer 2.2 Master
    • Professional Composer
    ...that would incredible, along with the Southworth interface. I can live without the box, although it would be a nice collectors item. But if it's going to be more expensive then it's fine.

    I will get you that address ASAP. Thanks again for all this man!
     

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