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Anyone feel like they made a mistake buying M1 MBP?

Spanther said:
Dude, that's progress. There is nothing magically expensive about 16/512 at all.

They are doing the chipset in-house, of course they can do this. That was the entire point: to blow away what Intel can provide.
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Apple will blow the existing $1799 13” Intel MacBook Pro out of the water with the new 14” MacBook Pro, but Apple has historically done that at the same price point and then touted the performance and display gains. This MBP replaces the $1799 model and that’s where the price is going to remain or go slightly higher, not lower. There was also a report a while back about a 13” “refreshed” M1 MacBook Pro coming that generally went unnoticed and so I can see Apple removing the TouchBar or increasing clock speed, better monitor support, something minor, to refresh the 13” model and leaving it for sale at the $1299 and $1499 price points. There is zero evidence beyond wishful thinking that the new 14” and 16” MBP’s will be any cheaper than their predecessors.
 
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Zdigital2015 said:
Apple will blow the existing $1799 13” Intel MacBook Pro out of the water with the new 14” MacBook Pro, but Apple has historically done that at the same price point and then touted the performance and display gains. This MBP replaces the $1799 model and that’s where the price is going to remain or go slightly higher, not lower. There was also a report a while back about a 13” “refreshed” M1 MacBook Pro coming that generally went unnoticed and so I can see Apple removing the TouchBar or increasing clock speed, better monitor support, something minor, to refresh the 13” model and leaving it for sale at the $1299 and $1499 price points. There is zero evidence beyond wishful thinking that the new 14” and 16” MBP’s will be any cheaper than their predecessors.
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Which is a weird strategy. If they would sell it considerably cheaper they would feast on Windows sales so people would go from Windows 10 to MacOS. And now is the time to do that since many people are bothered by the Windows 11 TPM 2.0 situation. Then when they have more marketshare they can raise the price to whatever they want
 
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Zdigital2015 said:
Apple will blow the existing $1799 13” Intel MacBook Pro out of the water with the new 14” MacBook Pro, but Apple has historically done that at the same price point and then touted the performance and display gains. This MBP replaces the $1799 model and that’s where the price is going to remain or go slightly higher, not lower. There was also a report a while back about a 13” “refreshed” M1 MacBook Pro coming that generally went unnoticed and so I can see Apple removing the TouchBar or increasing clock speed, better monitor support, something minor, to refresh the 13” model and leaving it for sale at the $1299 and $1499 price points. There is zero evidence beyond wishful thinking that the new 14” and 16” MBP’s will be any cheaper than their predecessors.
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Y'all in here acting like the 13" $1799 Intel (!!!) MBP, that nobody is buying, is the only thing the 14" M1X would be replacing. The 13" chassis is going to go away. That includes the M1 and Intel versions.

If it's a MBP it will be either 14" or 16" with M1X. Apple is not going to make this ridiculously confusing for consumers while simultaneously hurting the Pro moniker during a product launch.

Also, the already sold a non-touchbar 13" MBP a few years ago. That ship has sailed.

In the unlikely event the 13" stays around, it will have the M1X. That's my only possible concession to this line of reasoning.
 
Mannaerts said:
Which is a weird strategy. If they would sell it considerably cheaper they would feast on Windows sales so people would go from Windows 10 to MacOS. And now is the time to do that since many people are bothered by the Windows 11 TPM 2.0 situation. Then when they have more marketshare they can raise the price to whatever they want
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Apple has been using this strategy for quite a while and it has worked quite well for them. They aren’t going to sell it cheap, because chasing the Windows market is simply not something they care to do. Apple lost the OS wars way back in the late 90’s, why would they try to go after them now. Apple also doesn’t raise the price of a device after introducing it at a lower price. Generationally, that has happened, but they aren’t going to give you a $1299 intro price for 6 months and then raise it to $1799. That’s a horrible business strategy, regardless. Apple increased the pricing of the 13” MacBook Pro in 2016 and then introduced a “lower” tier 13” MBP (1.4GHz, two TB ports) in July 2019, which is the market tier that the M1 13” MBP took over in late 2020. This new 14” MBP takes over the $1799/$1999 market tier which is the 2016 price level when Apple introduced the 4 TB3 port models. This is reality for Monday’s announcement, users should prepare themselves accordingly.

Also, Windows 10 users aren’t going to waste time upgrading to Windows 11 if that involves buying a new machine, they’re going to simply keep using Windows 10 like people kept using XP after Vista came out.
 
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Mannaerts said:
Which is a weird strategy. If they would sell it considerably cheaper they would feast on Windows sales so people would go from Windows 10 to MacOS. And now is the time to do that since many people are bothered by the Windows 11 TPM 2.0 situation. Then when they have more marketshare they can raise the price to whatever they want
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Right?! I had to go into the BIOS on my MIL's new laptop to turn on TPM to all the Windows 11 upgrade to proceed.

Having to meddle in the BIOS is not something the average user wants to even think about, let alone execute.
 
Spanther said:
Y'all in here acting like the 13" $1799 Intel (!!!) MBP, that nobody is buying, is the only thing the 14" M1X would be replacing. The 13" chassis is going to go away. That includes the M1 and Intel versions.

If it's a MBP it will be either 14" or 16" with M1X. Apple is not going to make this ridiculously confusing for consumers while simultaneously hurting the Pro moniker during a product launch.

Also, the already sold a non-touchbar 13" MBP a few years ago. That ship has sailed.

In the unlikely event the 13" stays around, it will have the M1X. That's my only possible concession to this line of reasoning.
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The 13” isn’t going anywhere anytime soon and isn’t going to be updated to the M1X. Apple is going to get all the mileage they can out of the M1 and it hasn’t run out of gas yet. They’ve amortized all the expensive bits for the 13” already and now it’s pure profit. Think of it as the old 2.5GHz core i5 13” model that Apple sold forever. Again, the 14” will start at at least $1799, take it to the bank.
 
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Mannaerts said:
Which is a weird strategy. If they would sell it considerably cheaper they would feast on Windows sales so people would go from Windows 10 to MacOS. And now is the time to do that since many people are bothered by the Windows 11 TPM 2.0 situation. Then when they have more marketshare they can raise the price to whatever they want
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It won't be cheap to build the nicest laptop on the market, and they have margins to make. M1 MBA might move down to $899 next year, but that's as low as they'll go if I had to guess.
 
Not at all; it replaced my aging 2016 MacBook. I thought about just leaving it on my desk, but after some deliberation, I have docked my 16" MacBook Pro. I run a few VM's from time to time on this machine, so having it connected to an external monitor all the time now has been really great.
 
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