Anyone here NOT regret buying last gen iMac? (or will buy last gen anyway?)

Gregintosh

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Hey,

I got the 27" and 21.5" iMacs last week right before the refresh (I got them both as refurbs, saving a total of $550 with tax between the two units).

I personally don't regret buying when I did. The 21.5 is mostly for my wife for general use (Office work, Internet) and her experimentation with GarageBand (very occasional and pure hobby, not pro use). I don't know if an extra $200 for the minor speed bump and graphics bump would be worth it.

For mine, I do mostly office work and internet as well, but I do occasionally encode a DVD or edit some videos (VERY occasionally). I also have to run VMware with various Windows editions to test websites and software from time to time. The Core i5 I have now is only marginally slower than the new ones (5% on paper, maybe slightly more due to tech differences, but all that's minor compared to the massive bump I got going from 2.4Ghz Core 2 Duo on my 2007 Aluminum iMac to the i5).

I can encode a full DVD in about an hour and a half on my i5 iMac, so if the new one saved me an extra 10 or 15 minutes I don't think that's a big deal (considering that when I encode DVDs my computer is fully usable and does not lag at all due to the i5 and the 12GB of RAM in it, so it's not like I am sacrificing anything, unlike my old Core 2 Duo which took about 6 hours to do the same job and was practically unusable during the task).

The only other difference between the new and old is the graphics card I suppose, but I don't play any games regularly and when I do it is usually oldies from my gaming years (C&C Generals, for example), and even that has become something I do for maybe 10-15 hours every few months.

I would have had to pay $300 + tax more to get the new i5 versus the refurb I got.

All in all, I saved $550 worth of money ($500 + 10% sales tax here in Illinois), which is basically an iPad worth of savings. Or looking at it another way, I can use the savings to buy AppleCare for both machines for 3 years, and still have $200 or more left over.

And all I had to do was miss out on some minor speed bumps that wouldn't really matter in day to day use.

Anyone else not regret buying their machine recently?

Or I guess, is there anyone that really regrets springing for an iMac in the last month or two?

And lastly, for those who are now shopping, will anyone of you actually go for a refurb of the old i5 (or another model) versus buying the latest revision?

The refurb prices have not changed, and probably won't for a few months, and IMO if I had to do it again I'd probably still order a refurb of the last gen i5 versus buying a new one.

Edit: Oh yeah, the new macs also can do the SSD thing PLUS the internal HD, without sacrificing the optical drive. That is a pretty neat feature but at $600 or so it is definitely not something I'd get regardless, and I do not want to void my AppleCare so I wouldn't attempt to do it myself anyway. I'll definitely make sure to get in on that in about 3 years when it is standard or a cheap upgrade.
 

Razeus

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I'm going with a refurb model for the quad core. My current self-built PC has an i7 860 quad core and no way in hell I'm going to go back to using dual cores.
 

darrellishere

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I used the last generation i7 today at the apple store. Could definitely see the performance increase! I used aperture, adjusting raw files and sharpening.
Only about a second faster but thats exactly what I was looking for.

Hate waiting for my mac mini with ssd to catch up, whilst editing.

To be honest the mini is awesome and copes with its 6Gs of ram.

But I need the performance increase and might pick one up second hand on gumtree with a massive price reduction. Just hope I can still get apple care ;) x

BTW your warranty isn't void as long as you don't break anything along the way whilst installing your own ssd ;)
 

OldCorpse

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Got the top of the line 27" 2.8 gHz in February. I see nothing special in this update, though some things are nice. The nice is: greater RAM bandwidth, the sdxc slot and SSD option. But this is not enough for me to regret.

I'm gonna hold on to my iMac for a while - I got AppleCare coverage + 1 extra year because I bought it on my AmEx so got that extra year coverage through it.

Here's what would make me regret: if the prices on the SSDs were much lower - but they are not! Once the SSDs get to 1TB size for no more than $300, we can talk... until then, it's too expensive for what you get (to me). The other issue for me is that OS X doesn't properly support SSDs (doesn't support TRIM) - until that is fixed, I'm definitely not inclined to shell out a fortune for the privilege of an SSD.

Frankly, with 10.6 Snow Leopard, with 8Gig RAM I got, there's no reason for me to swap. A few years down the road, when I'm ready to get a new one, I hope I can get a 1TB SSD for no more than a $300 premium over the regular HDD, that it will take 32GB RAM and the operating system can take advantage of it, with full TRIM (or successor) support.

Also I'd hope they'd make the hdd space user accessible, like the RAM.
 

kfscoll

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Got the top of the line 27" 2.8 gHz in February. I see nothing special in this update, though some things are nice. The nice is: greater RAM bandwidth, the sdxc slot and SSD option. But this is not enough for me to regret.

I'm gonna hold on to my iMac for a while - I got AppleCare coverage + 1 extra year because I bought it on my AmEx so got that extra year coverage through it.

Here's what would make me regret: if the prices on the SSDs were much lower - but they are not! Once the SSDs get to 1TB size for no more than $300, we can talk... until then, it's too expensive for what you get (to me). The other issue for me is that OS X doesn't properly support SSDs (doesn't support TRIM) - until that is fixed, I'm definitely not inclined to shell out a fortune for the privilege of an SSD.

Frankly, with 10.6 Snow Leopard, with 8Gig RAM I got, there's no reason for me to swap. A few years down the road, when I'm ready to get a new one, I hope I can get a 1TB SSD for no more than a $300 premium over the regular HDD, that it will take 32GB RAM and the operating system can take advantage of it, with full TRIM (or successor) support.

Also I'd hope they'd make the hdd space user accessible, like the RAM.
My feelings exactly! The 4850 in last year's iMac is on par with the 5750 in the new iMac...and neither of those cards is really sufficient to play many modern games at the 27" monitor's native resolution. Besides, I have a Core i7-965 PC with quad-SLI GTX 295s for gaming -- no Mac is going to touch its gaming performance. IMO iMacs just aren't well-suited for gaming.

Aside from the GPU, the CPU upgrade in the 27" iMacs is just a minor speed bump. the SSD+HDD option is definitely sweet, but I know I'd never have paid the exorbitant upgrade price.

if I'd gotten a 21.5" iMac last year, I'd definitely be feeling the itch to upgrade (like I am with my mid-2009 MacBook Pro). but for now, I'm completely content with my "outdated" 27" i7.
 

bprice

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My feelings exactly! The 4850 in last year's iMac is on par with the 5750 in the new iMac...and neither of those cards is really sufficient to play many modern games at the 27" monitor's native resolution. Besides, I have a Core i7-965 PC with quad-SLI GTX 295s for gaming -- no Mac is going to touch its gaming performance. IMO iMacs just aren't well-suited for gaming.

Aside from the GPU, the CPU upgrade in the 27" iMacs is just a minor speed bump. the SSD+HDD option is definitely sweet, but I know I'd never have paid the exorbitant upgrade price.

if I'd gotten a 21.5" iMac last year, I'd definitely be feeling the itch to upgrade (like I am with my mid-2009 MacBook Pro). but for now, I'm completely content with my "outdated" 27" i7.
$350 for the slight boost is way to much ..I'm happy....

BP
 

Abs1nth3

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I picked up the 27in i7 just 2 weeks before the update and I'm glad I did. Also got the refurb model because of the steep discount.

The model was damaged in transport by fedex and the new one I received had a 2TB HD vs the 1TB I ordered, and Apple overnighted the shipment. :)

In the end with the free HD upgrade, I saved around $550 on just the one system! After looking over the new specs I am a little disappointed about the new video card but am more than happy with what I have and love the savings of the refurb models.
 

bprice

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I picked up the 27in i7 just 2 weeks before the update and I'm glad I did. Also got the refurb model because of the steep discount.

The model was damaged in transport by fedex and the new one I received had a 2TB HD vs the 1TB I ordered, and Apple overnighted the shipment. :)...........
does Apple have some kind of conspiracy with Fedex to try and break their products for an insurance scam!!(just speculation!)I find it incredible how many folks JUST got a refurb and Fedex !@#$% it up.(or almost in my case!)..just thinking...( I love my i7!!)

bp
 

heesey1010

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Got the top of the line 27" 2.8 gHz in February. I see nothing special in this update, though some things are nice. The nice is: greater RAM bandwidth, the sdxc slot and SSD option. But this is not enough for me to regret.

I'm gonna hold on to my iMac for a while - I got AppleCare coverage + 1 extra year because I bought it on my AmEx so got that extra year coverage through it.

Here's what would make me regret: if the prices on the SSDs were much lower - but they are not! Once the SSDs get to 1TB size for no more than $300, we can talk... until then, it's too expensive for what you get (to me). The other issue for me is that OS X doesn't properly support SSDs (doesn't support TRIM) - until that is fixed, I'm definitely not inclined to shell out a fortune for the privilege of an SSD.

Frankly, with 10.6 Snow Leopard, with 8Gig RAM I got, there's no reason for me to swap. A few years down the road, when I'm ready to get a new one, I hope I can get a 1TB SSD for no more than a $300 premium over the regular HDD, that it will take 32GB RAM and the operating system can take advantage of it, with full TRIM (or successor) support.

Also I'd hope they'd make the hdd space user accessible, like the RAM.
Kind of off topic, but AmEx/any credit card actually puts an additional year of warranty coverage on any additionally bought warranties? I knew most credit card companies did place an additional year of warranty, but I thought that was just on top of like the warranty provided by the manufacturer
 

zaffle

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i don't regret it. the cpu boost is nothing to me and the ssd is not an option. the graphics boost would be nice, but it's not worth the slight price hike, and since i'm not a student anymore, i saved around £400.
 

dexthageek

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I have no regrets at all.

I received my i7 refurb a couple days after the 4th of july holiday. It is an incredible machine, that I am planning on using for a number of years. I purchased AppleCare and using my AMEX extends the warranty to 4 years.

Honestly, I don't really see anyone who purchased the high-end i5/i7 regretting their decision. Now if I had purchased the low end 21.5 I would definitely be kicking myself and looking for a trade.
 

slicecom

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No regrets at all. Glad I didn't wait. I installed an SSD in my 2.8 i7 anyways so its day to day use is way faster than 99% of the configurations of the new iMacs anyways. ;) It will take a much bigger update than the minor speed bump this one was to make me want to upgrade.
 

spcdust

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i don't regret it. the cpu boost is nothing to me and the ssd is not an option. the graphics boost would be nice, but it's not worth the slight price hike, and since i'm not a student anymore, i saved around £400.
+1

The GPU boost isn't so great to make me feel that envious of this upgrade.
 

mrmarts

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No regrets here being my first Mac Iam nearly a month in using it, I usually update every 3 years. I wouldn't get another iMac for the following reasons

1. Same design
2. No USB 3 or improved FireWire ports
3. No bag of hurt blu ray
4. Minor graphics bump
5. No osx revision
 

OldCorpse

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Kind of off topic, but AmEx/any credit card actually puts an additional year of warranty coverage on any additionally bought warranties? I knew most credit card companies did place an additional year of warranty, but I thought that was just on top of like the warranty provided by the manufacturer
Yep. I called AmEx to specifically make sure. This applies to most merchandise, except for some things, like cars. I also bought a used car on my AmEx (for $6K), and unfortunately, the warranty extension does not apply to the car. But for the iMac - absolutely. Of course, odds are, that by the time all the warranties expire (Feb 2014), I'll want a new iMac anyway, so that suits me fine.
 

cxc

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No regrets whatsoever and no urge to upgrade because cpu speed bump will not be noticeable in probably 95% of all usage patterns + 10% raw gpu performance neither so there is no point in an upgrade after about one year ownership of the 2009 i5. The SSD option is nice but way too expensive. Still no TRIM support?
Slap in the Face. NEC USB 3.0 chips are down to 6 dollars, VIA and so forth to 2 dollars! Another slap in the face. I will definitely wait for a real upgrade. Same time next year I hope ;)
 

iMatthew

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Well perhaps the 256 MB VRAM vs 512 VRAM on the Base 27" - not sure if it would really make a difference - Playing StarCraft 2 - runs great but I know it could do better as its most likely the Open GL support and not the card.
 

dwd3885

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no regrets on returning the new i5 for the old i7. Old i7 = BETTER MACHINE for $200 less. No brainer.
 
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