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Discussion in 'Politics, Religion, Social Issues' started by Michael Goff, Apr 22, 2014.
Apparently, We Need To Remind People That Pro-Choice Women Are Allowed To Hav...
I guess it's ok to determine when a baby inside the womb is a living human being.
It's important to note that Pro Choice = / = Pro abortion.
That's because saying "I'm pregnant with a fetus" doesn't have quite the same ring to it.
Or related to Bill Clinton.
...... the fact that she's a Clinton makes it both newsworthy and POLITICAL. I find it reasonable that they can't have the one without the other.
Obviously Chelsea's pregnancy is a strategic ploy to bolster Hillary's bid for president in 2016
It is ok.
So, someone who is pro choice cannot have kids?
And the right wonders why they've lost the culture wars.
I don't think anyone is saying that.
I think you'll find that pro-life people want her to have that baby.
People are just pointing out that it's ironic that C. Clinton says she's pregnant "with a child" when the pro-choice movement routinely bends over backward to point out that it's not in-fact a child, but merely a clump of cells that's not even alive.
She's giving her own baby a level of humanity that she routinely denies for others.
I thought this tweet was particularly clever:
Because it puts the pro-life's efforts to de-humanize a human fetus, in order to justify what's nothing more than a killing, into sharp focus.
This one was good too:
Picking on the daughter of former political figures isn't clever - it's pathetic. Whether they're republicans or democrats.
And we all sit around and debate why this country is going to sh***.
Look at what Chelsea actually said:"Marc and I are very excited that we have our first child arriving later this yea"
The child is not here yet. It (he or she) is arriving later this year. Right now it is actually just a clump of cells - but a clump of cells that has the potential to become a child.
Why is this so hard for people to understand?
(And why do we always end up having to so carefully parse the things these darn Clinton say?)
Actually I pick on Bristol "Abstinence Only" Palin all the time. Not because she's the daughter of a political figure, but because she's a filthy hypocrite. How are you going to get pregnant at 16 and then preach "abstinence only" as if any teenage girl will listen to you?
It's up to a mother to choose whether to humanize a parasitic clump of cells or not. Hence the term "pro-choice". How does she routinely deny a basic level of humanity for others? She prefers to leave the choice up to the pregnant women, it's not like she goes around encouraging newly pregnant women to have abortions. I love when the anti-choice crowd associated "pro-choice" with "abortion lovers".
What a crock. The anti-abortion people wasted no time in lying about what she said and put their own political spin on it. For the record, here's what she said.
One more thing to say very quickly, Chelsea Clinton said as an event on the Lower East Side of Manhattan was coming to a close. Marc and I are very excited that we have our first child arriving later this year.
I don't think the improper use of their/there/they're is something that can be linked to ideological leaning.
And the President said we have 57 states and Hank Johnson said Guam would tip over if we put too many troops on it.....what's your point?
Unless he accidently got a picture of you, there's a chance you should take a deep breath.
Why's that? I'm trying to make a point and it is that the other side isn't stupid just because you disagree with them regardless of what pictures or quotes you might have on them.
Are there people that say/write dumb things? Sure. But there's plenty of that to go around for each side.
And there is stupidity all around, that doesn't make it any less stupid.
Agreed. Which I why it all started with me saying it isn't linked to ideological leaning.
Whoa Nelly! Care to source this 'claim?' Precisely where and when did Chelsea deny others this attribute?
"Ironic" perhaps, but not ironic.
That is irony.
This is just a pathetic attack from those that have nothing better to do. Just let her celebrate her pregnancy, it's a wonderful thing.
When you're making a grammar point you should probably get your grammar right .