Apple’s fall from grace

Discussion in 'Apple, Inc and Tech Industry' started by Michaelgtrusa, Oct 5, 2011.

  1. OllyW Moderator


    Staff Member

    Oct 11, 2005
    The Black Country, England
  2. rdowns macrumors Penryn


    Jul 11, 2003
    Quite frankly, I think the only thing they did wrong was in not calling it an iPhone 5. Apple might be getting bad press now but it will all change when the lines form.
  3. vincenz macrumors 601


    Oct 20, 2008
    Talk about sensationalism. Apple is not going anywhere. You just don't have to be a bored tech journalist with inflated expectations to know that.
  4. vitzr, Oct 5, 2011
    Last edited: Oct 5, 2011

    vitzr macrumors 68030


    Jul 28, 2011
    The "Day After" ...

    Today marks another milestone in the history of Apple.

    It's the "Day After"

    The day after the keynote which was as featureless as any to date.

    The day after, the press and enthusiasts heard far less than they had hoped to hear, from the company they have personally driven to success beyond anyone's wildest dreams.

    The day after the new and very brilliant CEO, Mr. Tim Cook, was saddled with less to report than any keynote in recent history.

    It's as though he was setup for failure by Steve Jobs, who's ego could not possibly handle reading rave reviews after an ultra successful Keynote Mr Cook is capable of presenting, if he would have had the goods.

    The stage was set, the press and public fully expecting iPhone 5 to be announced, what better way to flip off the public for one last time, than for Steve to deny Tim Cook the ability to announce iPhone 5.

    For years I had a _very high level of respect_ for Steve Jobs and the brilliant visionary he once was. Having been an avid Apple customer since day one, I have followed this company with a laser like focus and great enthusiasm.

    During the dark days before the near collapse I remained a staunch supporter.

    Steve Wozniak and Steve Jobs were an unstoppable combination even if they were not always on the same page, or doing the next right thing as these two young men learned their craft.

    Fast forward to approx 5 years ago when Mr. Jobs let the success go to his head, swelling it so large he could barely fit through a doorway. Suddenly addicted to the intoxication of power, influence and obscene wealth it changed him forever.

    While he went on to lead Apple to great financial success, there was a lot lost in the process. He sacrificed his soul, in order to gain further adoration, attention, status, power and influence. Steve Jobs Inc. was on a roll.

    I knew from the first moment Cook entered the stage and proclaimed his love for Apple, that things weren't right. You could hear it in his tone, see it in his eyes, and feel it in the room.

    You simply had to be there.

    Steve Jobs singularly gutted the new CEO yesterday, and today, the "Day After" I am very sad that Tim Cooks' public premier was all but destroyed by one very greedy old man.
  5. eawmp1 macrumors 601


    Feb 19, 2008
  6. (marc) macrumors 6502a


    Sep 15, 2010
    the woods
  7. *LTD* macrumors G4


    Feb 5, 2009
    Unfortunately for the doubters, haters, and sensationalists, there's such a thing as a quarterly earnings report.

    They will be disappointed. Again.

    Claim chowder is a popular dish, no foolin.
  8. emmawu macrumors 6502

    Jan 19, 2005
    Wauwatosa, WI
    What about the news that Apple now has a 23% market share of all computers? I think that was overlooked in all the noise about the new iPhone.:apple:
  9. rdowns macrumors Penryn


    Jul 11, 2003
    That is not what they said at all.

    Cook had 2 slides that had 23% on them. One was year-over-year growth (23%) vs. PCs (4%). The other was Apple's market share for August in the US (23%).

    Pretty far cry from a 23% market share of all computers.

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  10. Rodimus Prime macrumors G4

    Rodimus Prime

    Oct 9, 2006
    First things first it was marketing.
    First think you do in marketing is learn how to lie with numbers.
  11. *LTD* macrumors G4


    Feb 5, 2009
    Unless we include the iPad. ;)

    Which is happening more often in share reports.
  12. rdowns macrumors Penryn


    Jul 11, 2003
    Please explain how those statistics are lying? Your hatred is showing, as usual.
  13. Demosthenes X macrumors 68000

    Demosthenes X

    Oct 21, 2008
    Or, you know, the iPhone 5 just wasn't ready yet.

    Honestly, these kinds of posts are insane. Expecting a completely redesigned device every 12-18 months is insane. Does Apple completely redesign the MacBook Pro that often? Does BMW redesign the 3-Series that often? Of course not. It's a ridiculous expectation.
  14. kresh macrumors 6502a


    23% share of computers sold through retail stores, he said so. That excludes every business sale and all online sales (such as,,,,, and into near infinity)
  15. echosky81 macrumors newbie

    Jun 7, 2011

    I bet you sir feel like a douche right now. How about Steve Jobs health was deteriorating and he could no longer manage every aspect of production and design of the new iPhone. People like you disgust me bashing 24/7 about products that many companies merely intimidate daily. I'll end this by quoting Jobs "What have you done that’s so great? Do you create anything, or just criticize others work and belittle their motivations?"
  16. thewitt macrumors 68020


    Sep 13, 2011
    Record sales of the 4S and record profits for Apple will prove the experts wrong again.

    Only tech dweebs care about what was omitted from the 4S. The rest of the world will purchase them by the millions.
  17. roadbloc macrumors G3


    Aug 24, 2009
    I don't think anyone here or the articles were suggesting that Apple would go bankrupt over this. :rolleyes:
  18. spblat macrumors 6502a


    Jun 18, 2010
    ...or maybe Tim and the other executives knew that Steve's condition was grave and worsening even as they took the stage. And even though they would never have his skill at presenting a new product to the slavering masses, they had to do their best anyway.
  19. KnightWRX macrumors Pentium


    Jan 28, 2009
    Quebec, Canada
    They're not lying, they're obsfucating the truth. Remember he said "consumer US market share". That doesn't include the whole professional sector that buys bulk from Dell or HP or Lenovo, etc.. which is a lot of PC sales.

    It's not hatred to question Apple's keynote numbers. They are always padded and the truth is always bent to show a very different reality that what research firms conclude. But that's par for the course for Apple.
  20. KingCrimson macrumors 65816

    Mar 12, 2011
    The 4S fiasco is the beginning of a long end for Apple. Oct 4th will be remembered as the day it all changed. Now a wave of Windows Phone devices are coming to kill the iPhone. Intel Ultrabooks are coming to kill the MBA. Windows 8 tablets are coming to kill the iPad. Enjoy a few more dominant quarters Apple, because your days as #1 as VERY numbered.
  21. aziatiklover macrumors 68030


    Jul 12, 2011
    Location: and
    Sorry, but BRG is full of crap! They can't barely get anything right now! Same as Gizmodo.
  22. Rodimus Prime macrumors G4

    Rodimus Prime

    Oct 9, 2006
    If you know much about stats for marketing you learn you can easy inflate the number and make it look like something it is not. Knight explain it really well.
    They relay in the fact that people miss what it really was and assume it incorrectly which you did. Apple this time left out the professional market and online sales because doing so really inflated their numbers.
    Your response I could say you blind apple following is showing.
  23. roland.g macrumors 603


    Apr 11, 2005
    One mile up and soaring
    Anyone who was disappointed that they didn't announce an iPhone 5 and 4-plus on Tuesday had their head in the clouds. I could have told you it would never happen. Fall from grace? Kinda funny. Has Apple lost it's edge. No way.

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