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I really see no problem with advertisements in the app store. If anything, additional content discovery is something I’d welcome. I’d expect any store-front to advertise to me, just as my local Safeway.

Ads outside of the store though can go straight back to Android.
 
All companies are greedy. Apple is certainly more greedy than most though.
It apple is greedy there are tens of millions people who buy their products and opt in for their services and seemingly don’t care.

I’m not happy about the alleged ads in Apple Maps. Don’t care about the app store. I hope apple doesn’t ruin the experience in Apple Maps.

Some business are really greedy but we have no choice to do business with them. With Apple we have a choice.
 
It apple is greedy there are tens of millions people who buy their products and opt in for their services and seemingly don’t care.

I’m not happy about the alleged ads in Apple Maps. Don’t care about the app store. I hope apple doesn’t ruin the experience in Apple Maps.

Some business are really greedy but we have no choice to do business with them. With Apple we have a choice.

Exactly, and Apple's decisions to inject ads in their premium products and shove these bad services down our throats is driving me away. I mean I get free months of News+ begging me to sign up on my Best Buy receipt when I bought an Otterbox, that's how bad it is. Ads on a $400 Android phone or $500 Windows laptop is one thing - nasty but you can sort of see it. Ads on a $1000 iPhone or $1500 iPad - inexcusable.
 
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I hadn’t used the App Store in a couple years until the other day. Sure if I want a specific app I’ll just search and install it. And I got Apple Arcade for my kids and have some unique games from there that are fun. But I’m not app happy at all like I used to be. So I was browsing around trying to find some games to buy for my iPad and it’s mostly the same games from years ago and a bunch of freemium garbage being pushed? It’s no wonder I don’t wander outside Apple Arcade. As for other types of apps, I feel like most of the built-in apps do many of the things I used to need third party apps for, and the few third party productivity apps I use have been great for years with no need to replace. Seems like everything has already peaked?
 
Can I run Pi-Hole on a old laptop ? Does it need a second ethernet port ?
Only adblocker software can remove the space where they used to be. This is a limit on dns level blocking and one of the reasons I don’t use it.
 
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Apple must be struggling for money as it seems they aren't making enough on hardware and software sales, poor Apple.
 
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For all of you who are complaining, how many hours exactly are you spending looking in the App Store? Last time I was in there was 5 months ago…
 
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I don't know how to explain this more clearly but your logic here is flawed.

Super Bowl ads for example are what $5 million these days for 30 seconds? It'd be pretty freaking hard for a small up-and-coming company to advertise during that game. But a large company can do it without blinking. If Apple charges a high ad-rate for this prime real estate, its gonna be hard for a small developer to pay that cost, compared to a large developer.
Completely different scenario. We don’t know how ads will be priced, but it may be a combination of auction, relevance, and other factors. The Super Bowl on the other hand sets a price per ad, and the amount of ads run are somewhat based on how many spots they can sell.

The Today tab may have a higher ad cost than the individual app pages, but that’s fine — if someone taps on Facebook to download the app, an upstart social media app may advertise their product on that page — and Facebook can’t buy their way out of preventing this — that is why it levels the playing field. As I said, this should benefit the smaller developer more, as long as they have a compelling product.
 
That article you linked to refers specifically to the 128GB versions of the iPhone 11 and iPhone 12. It doesn’t mention Mini, Pro or Max. The launch price of the 128GB iPhone 11 in 2019 was $749. The launch price of the 128GB iPhone 12 in 2020 was $849. So the difference is $100.

The linked article states that the BOM costs went up to $415 for the iPhone 12 or 21% more than the BOM costs for the iPhone 11. So the BOM costs for the iPhone 11 were $415/1.21 or about $343. So the dollar difference in BOM costs is $72.

So the net margin, ignoring anything to do with accessories, increased by $28 dollars.
The article also points out "Box Contents," presumably referring to the power adapter and headphones, as saving Apple $4.20 per unit sold, assuming their information is correct. Yes, it adds up — we know the iPhone 12 series likely sold at least 220 million units in its first year, so let's round up a bit and say for simplicity that Apple made about $1 billion in profit over that year just from removing those items from the box.

But in total, Apple earned over $152 billion in profit that year…so, yes, it's still a rounding error at Apple's scale.
 
Eh I miss the old internet. Most websites are 10% content and 80% ads and 10% some random video that I can’t hit the x on. Ugh…
 
Exactly, and Apple's decisions to inject ads in their premium products and shove these bad services down our throats is driving me away.
You have to do what is best for you.
I mean I get free months of News+ begging me to sign up on my Best Buy receipt when I bought an Otterbox, that's how bad it is. Ads on a $400 Android phone or $500 Windows laptop is one thing - nasty but you can sort of see it. Ads on a $1000 iPhone or $1500 iPad - inexcusable.
One will get the same ads on a $200 used iPhone. Price has nothing to do with anything.
 
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First party ads in their own apps is generally not a big issue for me (because I can choose not to use the apps). But, in case of the app store I hate that you can't check for app updates anymore without first visiting the "Today" page with its flashy ads. Sneaky Apple. Also not looking forward to the new ads in the Maps app. If that continues they will lose one of their main advantages over Android and Google's apps.
 
So, let me understand. Effectively, I do not own any Apple, or other piece of tech, due to the EULA. The EULA gives the right to the manufacturer to control my device. In the extreme think of what Mr. Musk had done to software on his cars to specific people who have dared to criticize.

And now, I do not have the choice to block adds on my device.

IF this was an automobile, consumers would be up in arms. Imagine if Ford told you what type of brakes you had to use. Or if the car effectively become a brick after 5 years. In the same vein, Ford would be running adds in the dashboard display.

Have often said, when a manufacturing company focuses more on services, less on meaningful development, more on iterative upgrades, it has lost its leadership position as a manufacturer.
 
This will just make me avoid the app store even more. I disliked the change of placement of app updates when they did that (so that you have to dig to get to them). This is not giving us a better user experience Apple.

Google and Facebook execs must be chuckling - cause on this road to hell, its always more profitable the worse you make it for your customers.
 
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