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Apple Asks Indian Court to Block Antitrust Law Allowing $38 Billion Fine
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What has mobile phone market to do with telecom systems? Nokia and Ericsson have left the mobile phone market.
What eu companies have been forced to modify their business due to the DMA?
Everyone is far from everyone if it’s excludes those who can trust their own judgement, and don’t think (or trust) that ANY company knows best.
The situation in question concerns India only. Unless the legal process in India commands the rest of the world, and it doesn’t.
They don’t call it “sovereignty” for nothing. If developers find that they’re not making enough money developing for the minority platform in India, they should develop for the majority one!I’d be more than happy to charge hundreds of thousands to communicate this to them via some video conferencing solution. Perhaps they just don’t know that 9% is quite a good deal less than 91%?
So, I agree with you up until “within reason”. Fining a company based on revenue they make OUTSIDE the region left “within reason” behind long ago. LOL!
No, it also applies to ByteDance, a Chinese company and Booking.com, which is a Dutch company, and part of the EU. They are both gatekeepers under the DMA.
Come on, at least look these things up.
No.
This was pulled straight from Google’s attempts (that failed) to invalidate Apple patents on the iPhone by pretending if something becomes popular it should turn into a “de facto standard” and the company should be forced to license it.
Companies declare patents for contribution to a standard. You can’t force a company to give up their tech so others can use it.
Now you’re being disingenuous. There were originally almost 30 EU companies that would have to comply.
After “massaging” the rules they were all suddenly excluded.
The big one is Spotify, who are absolutely gatekeepers but somehow escaped unscathed.
The DMA is a joke.
Interesting how you avoided my previous reply.
You don’t have the right to reduce privacy/security of my devices simply because you want to side load Apps.
“Sticking to The App Store will make you safe” is a lie when other people’s devices aren’t playing by the same rules or are compromised.
I develop for Android and iOS. I assure you I know what I’m doing and understand the risks. Which is why I don’t want iPhones opened up.
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Please. This is a logical fallacy. There’s no actual statement to that in the DMA.
What we do have are the facts that almost 30 EU companies were originally on the list and then were all excluded after they modified the rules leaving only 5 US tech companies and one Chinese company.
You can’t be serious. They didn’t “read the law and comply”.
The EU lawmakers changed the rules in the DMA so that EU companies would be excluded. Rules like needing to have 45 million users to be subject to the DMA. What a ridiculous number. So a huge multi-billion dollar company with 20, 25 or even 40 million users is exempt.
Interesting how their numbers regarding users, revenue, businesses users and market cap all happened to change such that all those EU companies became exempt.
And you’re going to pretend this was just an accident?
That’s not true. Depending on where one lives they can install whatever they want! When regulation ensure fair competition, consumers win. I am not even saying I wouldn’t install from the App Store I am just saying the anticompetitive behavior needs to be banned.
That’s the biggest point with iPadOS. It costs more than a Mac, has the same SoC, but one cannot install and run apps that they could with MacOS which keeps the monopoly in tact for AAPL to ensure only the shareholders and executives win.
A right to compete fairly is different from what is happening. It’s like saying fist fights are okay, but someone else brings in iron fists to ensure victory. It wasn’t the terms of the deal but there are no terms because they’re too big and call their own shots and run the regulators by ensuring the regulations stay in their favor where corrupt officials decide. Like America. Been all over the world and America is just as corrupt as anyplace else yet everyone in America wants to act like it’s some great place. Born and raised in America. Live more than half the year overseas and see the decline in America happening rapidly. It’s easy to see if one steps back and looks at thriving systems and what once made America great versus what it is now.
That’s anticompetitive. And only regulation can stop it like what the EU has done. It’s much better for consumers and I don’t understand when people defend AAPL like it’s their baby. I love Apple products too, but I can differentiate that it’s run to ensure the wealthy get wealthier and everyone else loses in the long run.
It’s about the big picture of what’s at stake and why the wealthiest 1% own basically all of the world and the bottom 99% cannot compete or thrive. Just take an economic viewpoint, or look at it as consumers best interests, or look at it from all stakeholders points of view not just the shareholders. This happens when non founders lead companies. They lead for this quarter this year their reign. But in the long run they do far more harm than good by destroying goodwill to line the bank accounts of the wealthy which makes them wealthy.
No. The problem is with picking what you're picking. You're picking the wrong products. And refuse to see it any other way. Buy a Windows computer and an Android phone. Problem solved. You want to use a mac, use the mac. If you want to use it with an Android phone. Expect the limitations that come with that.
I'm sure there are 3rd party applications that will assist in getting macOS to talk to Android. I'm not saying any of them are any good. As I don't personally care to look into them. Which again isn't Apple's problem to solve. They provided a solution with the products they make. It's not their problem to solve to make other products work great with the stuff they make.
How do Indians have so much money that Apple has market dominance in India? You'd think in 3rd world countries, Apple would be at the bottom of smartphones sales?
Your points illustrate why as time goes on, I’m becoming anti-ecosystem. You should be able to pick what you want, from whomever you want, for any reason you want. Mix and match as you see fit, without the permission of any corporation or person.
In short, It shouldn’t matter what you pick. It’s not Apple’s duty to help you outside of the ecosystem, but they do nothing to prevent it, either.
So you knew, prior to buying your iOS device, all about Apple's "walled garden" approach when it comes to their i-devices, and then after making the choice to buy it you're now complaining that the system you willingly bought into is somehow unfair and anti-competitive?