Apple broiled, barbecued in court: Samsung PROVES pinch to zoom patent invalid

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  1. tninety, Aug 14, 2012
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    tninety macrumors regular

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    http://www.bgr.com/2012/08/14/apple-samsung-patent-trial-rebuttal-diamond-touch/

    What’s more, Samsung suggested that Apple knowingly stole the technology when its witness, Mitsubishi engineer Adam Bogue, testified that he showed the Diamond Touch to Apple engineers back in 2003.

    After being shown the idea of pinch-to-zoom, Apple took the initiative and stole it.

    "And boy have we patented it" (but only after we stole it) - Steve Jobs, iPhone launch

    "Good Artists Copy, Great Artists Steal" - Steve Jobs

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  2. jav6454 macrumors P6

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    There is a grace period in which anyone can call out patents and show them invalid due to them or a company having the same patent from before (previous filing).

    Like all things in law, there is a statue of limitations. I think Apple may be immune to this if that time has passed. So Samsun can't still call a win. Also, the Judge has to find this evidence compelling enough.
     
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    About as relevant as samsung saying they got their idea from a bowl of water.

    Prior art for the bowl of water concept.

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  4. tninety thread starter macrumors regular

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    Patents in the US only last for 20 years (14 years for design patents). I'm not a lawyer myself, but I believe US law says patents can be invalidated at any time.


    They aren't trying to sue their competitors out of business for it to halt their declining marketshare. :rolleyes:
     
  5. nuckinfutz macrumors 603

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    All caps on the "PROVES" in the headline?

    smells like a troll thread.
     
  6. tninety thread starter macrumors regular

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    I promise, I'm not trying to troll, I just found the other thread with the "fried" metaphor a little too much and decided to follow up with a metaphor of my own.
     
  7. thekev macrumors 604

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    I figured troll thread by the choice of graphics and thread title. I wouldn't see it any differently if it supported Apple instead.
     
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    One wonders why samsung didn't use Jeff Han's Perceptive Pixel.

    A guy sends Apple an email ? big deal. Lot's of people send Apple email.
     
  9. nuckinfutz macrumors 603

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    Ok...my bad probably jumped the gun there.

    It will be interesting to see if Samsung's "prior art" testimony is deemed credible.
     
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    I might add if this invalidates any Apple IP it also invalidates any samsung IP related to multi-touch.

    Also this lawsuit is also about trade dress. That table looks nothing like an iPhone. It doesn't even operate like an iPhone.

    And the table came out in 2008.
     
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    The trade dress claims and patent claims can be defended seperately. That the table looks nothing like an iPhone has no bearing upon it being or not valid prior art.

    Multi-touch is not an Apple invention. These are concepts based on research dating back to the early 80s.
     
  12. smoledman macrumors 68000

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    Weak sauce Shamesung, this is only going to make Judge Koh angrier and impose a harsher penalty.
     
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    "Under questioning by Apple counsel Michael Jacobs, however, Bogue stated that Fractal Zoom was actually developed after the device had been taken to Apple."
     

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