Apple iPhone Will Fail in a Late, Defensive Move

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  1. MacBytes macrumors bot

    Jul 5, 2003
  2. dejo Moderator


    Staff Member

    Sep 2, 2004
    The Centennial State
    I guess he forgot about the whole 2-year Cingular/AT&T contract part of the announcement...
  3. dllavaneras macrumors 68000


    Feb 12, 2005
    Caracas, Venezuela
    Yeah, there are thousands of phones with nothing but touchscreen and an incredible UI :rolleyes:
  4. IJ Reilly macrumors P6

    IJ Reilly

    Jul 16, 2002
    This guy is the current king of the baloney wagon. It's hard to even know where to start picking apart his arguments. Maybe with the second paragraph:

    That "religious cult" garbage is so 1990s. How many iPods has Apple sold in the last five years, bud?
  5. Silencio macrumors 68020


    Jul 18, 2002
    Puh-leeze! If the iPhone was a "defensive product", Apple would have released a much more stripped-down version of it a long time ago.
  6. jono_3 macrumors regular

    Oct 23, 2005
    who owns i wonder..... "For the past week, it has been impossible to open a newspaper or look at a Web site without reading something about the shiny new phone." WOW youd think if someone was that exposed to something they understand what theyre talking about..
  7. Lixivial macrumors 6502a


    Jan 13, 2005
    Between cats, dogs and wanderlust.
    Yep. It's become a benchmark of a journalist with nothing left to say, or with an indefensible argument.

    The only credible remarks that the press has about the iPhone at this point is regarding the trademark issues, but even this is pushing it a bit. It's not as if Apple can't name it something else. Everything else is pure speculation as we know nothing about the details that will determine the fate of the product.
  8. kugino macrumors 65816


    Jul 10, 2003
    he certainly doesn't understand the apple community at all...and yes, some of his arguments are quite poor. but, he has one good point:

    - apple is not in total control of how well the iphone does b/c it does have to rely on these insidious cell phone companies. i think this, more than any other factor, will determine how well or how poorly the iphone will do. i'm sure if it were up to steve he'd have an unlocked iphone and one that also ran on CDMA networks...but being tied to cingular severely limits the market growth of the product.

    other than that, this guy is a tool. it's "nothing more than a luxury bauble?" is the media so in the dark that they'd swoon over something simply because it was shiny? and "it was mainly produced to protect the ipod?" look, this thing was in the works for at least the last 2.5-3 years, if not longer. it's not a radical response to protect the standalone ipod from the mobile phone...rather, steve sees the mobile phone industry as a ripe area to introduce something truly remarkable. now, will the iphone succeed? who might, it might not. but if it fails, i think it will be b/c apple doesn't have total control over it...cingular's shortcomings will be its doom.
  9. rjwill246 macrumors 6502

    Feb 22, 2003
    USA (often) and Adelaide, OZ
    Bloomberg should fire this guy---

    ---since he is clearly NO asset to them in giving an analysis of the Apple world for Bloomberg's investors. Good grief, I have seen greater results from a soap suds enema than this guy produced. That was a poorly executed take on the phone world, indicates his biases (last shot at Cingular) and gives the impression that others must have foot his considerable bill for the intensive investigative reporting-- all 29 cents of it!!! That "report" was an embarrassment.

    This week has lacked only one thing--- Dvorak's take on the iPhone--- Mmm is he still around? He has been very quiet. Even Enderle wasn't THAT negative, for a change. I think he might be switching.
  10. balamw Moderator


    Staff Member

    Aug 16, 2005
    New England
  11. Chaszmyr macrumors 601


    Aug 9, 2002
    First, I think it's false that iPhone is a defensive product. I don't think the iPod really needs to be protected (maybe some day, but not now). Rather, I think Apple is mostly trying to expand into a new market.

    Second, the article is obviously every bit as biased as any response that it will get from an Apple geek. The columnist tipped his hand when he said "if it could, it would be Microsoft."
  12. 123 macrumors 6502

    Mar 3, 2002
    So now it's cingular's fault that they didn't have the balls to sell it unlocked and with skype and ichat on it?
  13. IJ Reilly macrumors P6

    IJ Reilly

    Jul 16, 2002
    Some of the iPhone's features are apparently dependent on server-side technologies developed by Cingular. An unlocked iPhone would not be an iPhone.
  14. aLoC macrumors 6502a

    Nov 10, 2006
    It's not a defensive product. They probably just thought all the existing smart phones were sh*t, and they could do a better job. And they have.

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