Are you saying it DOESN'T work for iPods? Because thousands upon thousands of people are using USB 2.0 just fine with iPods.Kagetenshi said:Apple is propagating the myth that USB is an appropriate mass data transfer medium. This is unacceptable.
If I recall correctly it was Apples fault that many motherboards today do not have Firewire. Apple wanted to lease them at a ridiculous $1 per port or something stupid like that then lowered it to $0.50.yellow said:Not totally surprising since so many WinTelThons are slow to catch up to using Firewire..
Exactly. Which just goes to show that Apple's move is questionable. What's the problem with including two cables in the box? They've done it for YEARS with the iPod -- why stop now?nagromme said:It's just not as simple as that. There's a place in the world for BOTH types of connection.
The problem is that actually DOES cost something to include another cable. Truly. That's the bottom line. Asking Apple to give up a few dollars a box for you is NOT nothing. And that cost is a waste for most of the iPod's market--nearly all of whom have USB2, but many of whom do not have Firewire. (It's also simpler for people just to have one cable in the box, but that's a minor benefit.)simX said:what's the problem with having two cords in the box, and let users choose which one they want to use?
No..whats stupid is that you're complaining about having to take $30 out of a $150 price drop. Lets just completely gloss over the fact that the iPod Photo is CHEAPER than it was on Tuesday, even when you buy a $30 Firewire cable.rhpenguin said:and for those of us with iBooks that were purchased before usb2.0 was available, it sucks.
i have to pay an extra $30 at time of purchase to be able to fill my new iPod Photo without it taking more than 10 hours. Now thats just stupid.
Talk about a standards 'place' all you want. If the market disagrees with you, I expect that Apple is going to choose the market. Especially when, to the user, the difference doesn't exist.Kagetenshi said:No, it is as simple as that. It's like using SMTP as a file transfer medium. It works in small quantities, but when it comes down to it it's just ugly because that's not what the interface works for.
There's a place for USB2.0. That place is for small form-factor drives, printers, and low-end scanners. Not anything that does significant amounts of data transfer.
And for me, this is great! Apple didn't use to sell Firewire/Dock connector cables separately... I have a 20GB 3G iPod, and I have the Dock beside my stereo, so I could really use a second FW cable to connect it to the power brick. I could, then, leave the other cable always connected to my Mac...nagromme said:And Mac users who choose to buy a FW cable won't waste that USB one: it can be your wall-charging cable, and you won't have to move it back and forth to your Mac. (That's why I often use USB with my iPod: the convenience of just leaving the Firewire cable on the wall charger which I also use. Now the situation is reversed, which would actually work BETTER for me.)
they did always sell the cables for the iPods, but i guess a lot of people are noticing just now. if you get the pocketdock, then you'll still need another regular firewire cord to use it with the computer or the charger, just keep that in mind. my friend bought one, and he kept on forgetting a regular firewire cable.Mainyehc said:And for me, this is great! Apple didn't use to sell Firewire/Dock connector cables separately... I have a 20GB 3G iPod, and I have the Dock beside my stereo, so I could really use a second FW cable to connect it to the power brick. I could, then, leave the other cable always connected to my Mac...
I'm still undecided whether if I'll buy the FW/Dock connector cable or a SendStation's PocketDock... Even though the Apple cable is probably cheaper than the PocketDock, the latter is more flexible (I'd be buying the one with line-out connection)...
Or maybe the complainers died?dejo said:This is similar to when Apple stopped putting an ADC connector in their Macs. Many people bitched at the time they were moving to the more widely accepted DVI connector, but eventually the complaining died down.