iPhone SE Apple needs to make it clear they are still interested in Smaller iPhones or not!

animatedude

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Apple needs to confirm they still care about people who use iPhones with one hand, or not

If they don't anymore, i'll be more than happy to re-purchase iPhone SE while it's still available here and there

Someone needs to drop Tim Cook an email to ask about that

My prediction: March/April Apple releases smaller XR

My Hope: SE2 or XR mini, iPhone Mini...whatever you wanna call it, i just need am updated iPhone that i can use with one hand
 

IndianBird

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Apple needs to confirm they still care about people who use iPhones with one hand, or not

If they don't anymore, i'll be more than happy to re-purchase iPhone SE while it's still available here and there

Someone needs to drop Tim Cook an email to ask about that

My prediction: March/April Apple releases smaller XR

My Hope: SE2 or XR mini, iPhone Mini...whatever you wanna call it, i just need am updated iPhone that i can use with one hand
Just thinking out loud here, but you could email him and ask yourself?

tcook@apple.com
 
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BugeyeSTI

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Apple needs to confirm they still care about people who use iPhones with one hand, or not

If they don't anymore, i'll be more than happy to re-purchase iPhone SE while it's still available here and there

Someone needs to drop Tim Cook an email to ask about that

My prediction: March/April Apple releases smaller XR

My Hope: SE2 or XR mini, iPhone Mini...whatever you wanna call it, i just need am updated iPhone that i can use with one hand
Discontinuing the SE wasn’t a sign to you?
 
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s15119

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Naw, actually they do not. They have a product line available. They don't need to announce anything about future products and they rarely do until just before those products are ready.
 
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subjonas

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people who fail to embrace larger phones
Fail? If by using this word you’re implying that large phones are the objectively logical choice for all, better in every way to small phones—not simply a trade off that happens to be the current popular trend—then I’d say the only failure is yours in being unable to realize that people have different needs, priorities, and preferences, and that none are better than others.
 
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Relentless Power

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Apple needs to confirm they still care about people who use iPhones with one hand, or not

If they don't anymore, i'll be more than happy to re-purchase iPhone SE while it's still available here and there

Someone needs to drop Tim Cook an email to ask about that

My prediction: March/April Apple releases smaller XR

My Hope: SE2 or XR mini, iPhone Mini...whatever you wanna call it, i just need am updated iPhone that i can use with one hand
It’s really simple, the iPhone SE was not making Apple enough money, that’s why they discontinued it. And/Or, the other theory was, that the SE was always meant to be a limited Edition release simply for other merging markets and an entry-level iPhone for those who wanted the 4 inch form factor.
 
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thadoggfather

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Whenever the mini 5 drops this spring will be a good indication of whether or not we’ll see an SE2 anytime soon imo
 
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yukari

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Dropping SE line seems to send a pretty strong signal that Apple is not interested in small iphone market.
Even though I prefer the size of SE, I am not holding my breath we will see that size iPhone from Apple in the foreseeable future. I hope to be proven wrong come this spring. (one can always hope)
 
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agente46

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Fail? If by using this word you’re implying that large phones are the objectively logical choice for all, better in every way to small phones—not simply a trade off that happens to be the current popular trend—then I’d say the only failure is yours in being unable to realize that people have different needs, priorities, and preferences, and that none are better than others.
There are people still using iPods, portable CD players, Tube/projection TVs.....etc that are unwilling to let go of what they are used to. The market will eventually dictate people's needs based on popularity and what sells. You just failed to realize that, not me. If people wanted smaller phones, manufacturers will keep them around. But obviously, that is not the case.

https://www.statista.com/statistics/684294/global-smartphone-shipments-by-screen-size/
 
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joeblow7777

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Apple really doesn’t need to reveal anything about their future product plans and there’s no reason to expect them to. Does anyone actually believe that anyone at Apple will give a meaningful reply to any email asking them about future products?
 
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animatedude

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Apple really doesn’t need to reveal anything about their future product plans and there’s no reason to expect them to. Does anyone actually believe that anyone at Apple will give a meaningful reply to any email asking them about future products?
Yes, both Tim Cook and Steve Jobs responded to emails from people about future products.

Steve Jobs replied to one person complaining about the late release of Macbook Pro , by saying something like "don't worry" or something, which meant it was coming out soon, and it did..i think that was 2012?

Tim Cook also replied several times to people about future products including last year about the Mac mini

That being said, i don't think now is the right time to email Tim lol
 
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subjonas

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There are people still using iPods, portable CD players, Tube/projection TVs.....etc that are unwilling to let go of what they are used to. The market will eventually dictate people's needs based on popularity and what sells. You just failed to realize that, not me. If people wanted smaller phones, manufacturers will keep them around. But obviously, that is not the case.

https://www.statista.com/statistics/684294/global-smartphone-shipments-by-screen-size/
What do old technologies have to do with size preference? You think making a 6” phone instead of 4” was some kind of technological breakthrough? Lol. The original 2007 iphone could have been 6”. Like I said, large phones are simply a contemporary popular preference, the same as skinny jeans. As far as I can tell, you’re basically arguing that because most people prefer it one way, the rest should conform and like it.
 
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saltd

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I would say that the small phone market is pretty much dried up at this point. A smaller buttonless iPhone would likely be quite expensive to engineer and manufacture, and there’s NO way that the old SE form factor is ever coming back.

Also, with iPhone sales apparently down, Apple’s probably going to play it conservatively as far as “new” designs.

That’s just my take on it. I’m not down on the idea of an SE reboot-I adored my SE for the little tank that it was...but I think it’s just a bygone blip in the iPhone timeline.
 
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niji

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apple has explicitly confirmed for years that they are not interested in small handsets.

how have they confirmed this?
by continually increasing the dimensions and weight of every phone for every year for the past 3 years.

get bigger pockets and do hand exercises to make yr hand bigger. :)
 
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joeblow7777

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Yes, both Tim Cook and Steve Jobs responded to emails from people about future products.

Steve Jobs replied to one person complaining about the late release of Macbook Pro , by saying something like "don't worry" or something, which meant it was coming out soon, and it did..i think that was 2012?

Tim Cook also replied several times to people about future products including last year about the Mac mini

That being said, i don't think now is the right time to email Tim lol
Good luck. I think you have a better chance of finding a unicorn than getting a direct response. Announcing products is not something that is done lightly. If Jobs or Cook ever responded to emails in such a way, it just means that they were going to announce the products anyway, so you might as well wait and see.
 
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Relentless Power

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apple has explicitly confirmed for years that they are not interested in small handsets.
This is incorrect. Read what Greg Joswiak stated about the SE: (Apple’s VP of Marketing)

https://amp.theguardian.com/technol...e-4in-apple-smartphone-launched-cheaper-price

Greg Joswiak, VP of product marketing for Apple, said: “Some people simply love smaller phones. And the 4in phone is often their first iPhone. Some people asked and pleaded with us. So we’re calling it the iPhone SE. Our most powerful 4in phone ever.”

So, what was the point of the SE that was available for almost three years? Apple obviously responded to the consumer stand point.

Also, if you watch the March 2016 Keynote, Greg Joswiak (VP of marketing) explicitly stated that one of the reasons the SE was introduced, was because Apple realized there was a demographic who wanted a smaller iPhone.
 
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Givmeabrek

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Also, if you watch the March 2016 Keynote, Greg Joswiak (VP of marketing) explicitly stated that one of the reasons the SE was introduced, was because Apple realized there was a demographic who wanted a smaller iPhone.
No doubt that demographic has changed. Small phones have their place, but not small iPhones. Small displays on smartphones are not popular. Apple makes the rules and we stand in line at the Apple store to buy what they are selling...
 
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joeblow7777

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No doubt that demographic has changed. Small phones have their place, but not small iPhones. Small displays on smartphones are not popular. Apple makes the rules and we stand in line at the Apple store to buy what they are selling...
It's not like Apple were the ones who decided in favour of the trend to larger displays. They actually resisted it longer than everyone.
 
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Relentless Power

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No doubt that demographic has changed. Small phones have their place, but not small iPhones..
The point is, what that member I quoted said was entirely incorrect, as they stated ‘Apple has explicitly for years said that they’re not interested in small hand sets’, when that was completely debunked in 2016 when Greg Joswiak verbatim said otherwise why one of the reasons Apple introduced the SE was due to the consumer response expressing interest in a 4 inch iPhone. We all gather a 4 inch iPhone doesn’t hold the popularity that a larger phone is today, but the fact that Apple openly admitted they listened to the consumer, says otherwise of the popularity SE in general, when The major competitors didn't really offer anything even remotely close to what Apple did with a 4 inch iPhone.
 
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cableguy84

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SE is a dead discontinued product, it’s not coming back.
Hasn’t been refreshed for nearly 3 years.
 
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