Apple Pencil 1 , won’t be compatible with new iPad?

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  1. darthbane2k macrumors 6502a

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    So I sold my 9.7 inch iPad Pro in anticipation for the new model. I held onto my Apple Pencil though as I figure it’s good enough for me as is, however I’ve just realised that if the rumours are true and the new iPad Pro ditches lightning for USB C and the new pencil charges via magnetic connector , my Apple Pencil won’t work!
    What are your thoughts?
     
  2. sracer macrumors G3

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    I think that no one outside of Apple knows for sure but if any of those rumors are true then you'll at least need an adapter to be able to charge the Pencil with those new iPad Pros. There's also an outside possibility that the Pencil 1 will be completely incompatible with those new iPad Pros.
     
  3. darthbane2k thread starter macrumors 6502a

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    Having said that , it would also mean the new Pencil would be incompatible with the edu iPads launched recently. I can’t see Apple having two different types of pencil on the market. Hmm..
     
  4. JPack macrumors 68040

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    Why not?

    Pencil and Lightning for iPad. Pencil Pro and USB-C for iPad Pro. Since Apple is using a different connector, why not have different Pencils?
     
  5. darthbane2k thread starter macrumors 6502a

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    No offence but that sounds terrible. Imagine the consumer confusion
     
  6. Tapiture macrumors 65816

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    Maybe a special pencil that connects with the new Pro will come with it?
    Haha! just kidding. Apple would never do that.

    Jokes aside, it wouldn’t make sense for Apple to only sell one kind of pencil that connects with the new Pro and leave the rest of the iPad models hanging dry. Expect to see two models of Pencil, and I’d imagine the old pencil can’t work with the new Pro because it’d have no way to connect since the ports are different.
     
  7. Greenmeenie macrumors 65816

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    It’s not for certain that Apple is doing away with the lightning connector for usb-c. But even if they do, I am sure your Apple Pencil will still work with the new iPads. As far as charging your old Apple Pencil, yes, if it charges thru the magnetic connector it won’t work. But I am sure you’ll be able to get a usb-c to lightning dongle to charge it. And actually, I think that would be better than the current method! Think about it. With a dongle(perhaps something like the sad card reader with the small wire)...it will be less prone to snapping off. I really hate the current charging method with pencil sticking so precariously out the end of the iPad.

    Anyway...I wouldn’t worry about the pencil situation. There will be a solution for the gen one Pencil, and I think it will be better than the current method.
     
  8. Dovahkiing macrumors regular

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    I mean, Apple Pencil 2 could still have lightning for charging in addition to ability to charge wirelessly while docked with the new pro.

    That way, even if the new Pros have USB-C, Apple can still just have one Pencil SKU that works with all iPads. They could just stop making the current Pencil.

    If new pencil works with 2018 iPad 9.7 - which I think is likely given that having two different Pencil SKUs seems very un-Apple - then it would stand to reason old Pencil would work with new iPad. This all seems like it would be the most practical solution.
     
  9. kazmac macrumors 604

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    Either of these options wouldn't surprise me, particularly the latter.
     
  10. JPack macrumors 68040

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    The only reason for Pencil Pro to have Lightning would be compatibility with old iPads. In that case, I doubt Apple would put Lightning just to satisfy old users. Since Apple is going USB-C with iPad Pro, it would make sense to go all out. Stocking two types of Pencils is hardly a problem.
     
  11. gobikerider Suspended

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    With Apples marketing not really, it would make since to have a improved more precise model of the pencil for the Pro model vs the iPad. Wouldn’t surprise me at this point but oh boy get your wallet ready :(
     
  12. darkarn macrumors 6502a

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    Maybe the Lightning Pencil would go on to be the Pencil for iPads since 2018's can use it, while the USB C Pencil would become the Pencil for iPad Pros?
     
  13. Dovahkiing macrumors regular

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    No way Apple includes two ways to charge the new pencil for iPad pro. It will not have both type c and wireless - that would be stupid
     
  14. Southern Dad macrumors 68000

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    What if a new Apple Pencil could be charged with Lightning, USB-C, and wireless? $149 instead of $99? Call it Pencil Pro and add a red stripe?
     
  15. darkarn macrumors 6502a

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    I am unsure what you mean but I was thinking more along the lines of Apple rearranging its goods for the different iPads so that it can sell both new and old Pencils at same time but for different iPads
     
  16. DNichter macrumors G3

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    I've never done it, but can the pencil be plugged into the power brick?
     
  17. darkarn macrumors 6502a

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    Not sure how this can help but I did use a powerbank, standard Lightning cable and that small female-female Lightning plug to charge my Pencil on the go before
     
  18. DNichter macrumors G3

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    Too much work, but hey it works haha
     
  19. darkarn macrumors 6502a

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    Thankfully so! Better than sticking it out of the iPad and hope nothing hits the Pencil
     
  20. charlituna macrumors G3

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    key words "If the rumors are true".

    just wait and see what they actually announce instead of getting worried about what might maybe be true or maybe not
     
  21. darthbane2k thread starter macrumors 6502a

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    Ah I just sold my Apple Pencil anyway. All things point to Pencil 2 having a lightning connector and magnetic inductive charging. The latter will probably be the way it charges with the new pro , so I would literally have to charge the old Pencil off my phone or that adaptor
     
  22. kristalsoldier macrumors 6502

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    Yeah, but you see, doing that detracts from the very purpose of this site, which is, not uncoincidentally, named MacRumors.
     
  23. Jarcrew macrumors 6502

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    I can see them going with two pencils - the one we know today goes iPad 2018 only and connects via Lightning, the new model gains extra features, has an M1 chip, possibly metal construction with colour options, and only charges via a magnetic strip on the side (that "plug it in the bottom" thing is astoundingly bad, almost as bad as charging a mouse via a plug into its underside). They rebrand the current pencil, which is then aimed at schools and consumers. And the new pencil has beefed up specs (increased pressure sensitivity etc) and features aimed at power users (buttons on the side that serve as tool modifiers, or an erase tool on the back end - I suspect they will likely demonstrate this working with Photoshop or Gemini). Plenty of people are doing professional level illustration work on the iPad as it is, I can see the new Pencil being aimed more at them.

    Along those lines, I think there will be a price differential between the Pencil and the new one (Apple Pencil Pro? Apple Pen?). I would love to think they drop the Pencil down to $79, but I think it's more likely it will remain at $100 and the new one will simply be more expensive.

    I think we're beginning to see the iPads diverging - the stock iPad with the regular pencil will be for everyone, whereas the Pro (with USB-C and lord knows what else in iOS 13) will be positioned towards power users, "pro-sumers" and the like.
     
  24. Greenmeenie macrumors 65816

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    I just hope they don’t call it the Apple Pencil Pro
     
  25. charlituna macrumors G3

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    They might have rumors in the name but they and folks on the forums act like it’s MacFACTS which it is not and is why I said wait and see what is actually announced before flipping ones sheet
     

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