Apple Prepping 'Explicit' Category for App Store [continued]

Discussion in 'Politics, Religion, Social Issues' started by Doctor Q, Mar 26, 2010.

  1. Doctor Q Administrator

    Doctor Q

    Staff Member

    Sep 19, 2002
    Los Angeles
    This is a continuation of the discussion thread for the Apple Prepping 'Explicit' Category for App Store news story.

    Discussion of Apple's introduction of an explicit category in the App Store can continue by those eligible for the "Politics, Religion, Social Issues" forum. (See "I can't post".)

    Reminder: Stay clear of personal insults where people disagree with your opinion.
  2. bobber205 macrumors 68020


    Nov 15, 2005
    I wonder how many of the people who said it was fine that apple was rejecting this apps will come around and defend this decision as well.
  3. leomac08 macrumors 68020


    Jul 12, 2009
    Los Angeles, CA
    I'm surprised this thread became a controversial technological issue into some sort of social reform thread with politics.:p
  4. Bonte macrumors 6502a


    Jul 1, 2002
    Bruges, Belgium
    I personally hate it when porn apps pollute the appstore and probably ibookstore, i'm all for banning this ****. Problem is that somewhat suggestive themes in a book are considered porn and obscene by some, having a explicit tag would solve some problems.

    A lot of the comics we have in Belgium and France have some form of nudity in them, also most regular literature have this but they don't use images so it's not considered a problem. Half of the nominees for the international comic festival in Angoulême were rejected from iTunes, there is definitely something wrong with the current system.

    I don't know how effective this will be when so much regular software and books will need to have an explicit tag. :confused:
  5. kernkraft macrumors 68020


    Jun 25, 2009
    What a bunch of amateur hypocrites! First they go trigger-happy, even removing material that had nothing to do with sex or porn at all - while there are dozens of fart apps and other pointless stuff available.

    But beware, Apple Inc - the porn industry will eat you for breakfast. You might get some porn on the iPod Touch of some bored kids, but that's all. Besides, the whole industry is running on Flash!
  6. swagi macrumors 6502a

    Sep 6, 2007
    Thanx for getting the discussion into this forum.

    Nevertheless it has to bestated, that the whole "Explicit" thing is really retarded. There is no real objective definition when material gets explicit. If people now head off to spotlight again to prove me wrong, I have to tell you, that explicity seems to be a cultural evolving category.

    E.g. graphical representation of extreme violence is banned in some countries (like here in Germany). This means, several games are not available at all - not even to adults (e.g. Zombie-Patch in CoD4; Dead Rising, Manhunt to name a few). Most other games are cut.

    OTOH we don't seem to have a problem with boobs, as you can see them everywhere. Your favorite tabloid talks breast enhancement. Actually refer to Hollywood. When was the last time, you were pretty annoyed that the authors had to fill time with a totally useless sex-scene (totally useless in a way that the scene did nothing for character evolvement, was 5 minutes long and you could've perfectly cut that out)?

    But that's over here. I read, that differing cultures have really differing opinions on porn and censorship, like written in this Wiki.

    So actually I can only see one major disadvantage. Local censorship has to be applied (in a way that some things remain banned and in regard to what has to be viewed as explicit content in a cultural background).

    To pretty much sum this bigotry in the thread up, I suggest you reconsider the Wiki on the "Parental Advisory" sticker on music.
  7. CJM macrumors 65816


    May 7, 2005
    To Demon Hunter:

    "Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man."
  8. bobr1952 macrumors 68020


    Jan 21, 2008
    Melbourne, FL
    I am one for choice and I personally have no problem with adult entertainment and I think it is wise for Apple to not ignore it but at the same time, not just stick it there in the middle of everything else--this would seem to be a good solution.
  9. kernkraft macrumors 68020


    Jun 25, 2009
    Why have they closed the thread? Currently it's the second or third news item and you can post for everything else.

    Just because it's a 'social' topic?! Come on, respect yourself, Macrumors! And us, too!
  10. CHAOS STEP macrumors 6502


    Nov 2, 2005
    playing tiddlywinks with Kim Jong-un

    Because Macrumors couldn't possibly allow for the discussion of comments, corrections, opinion on macrumors articles on the section of the forum that is for comments, corrections, opinion on macrumors articles.
  11. JAT macrumors 603

    Dec 31, 2001
    Mpls, MN
    What a joke. Every person in this (and the original) thread is a hypocrite. Every single opinion stated can be scintillated down to one basic comment: I want to do what I want to do, and YOU better let me.

    Here's a hint: Apple is also allowed to choose what it wants to do. You want freedom? It goes both ways. A particular store doesn't have to sell or not sell any particular product based on what YOU want, they get to do it based on what they want. You might note that it is actually people making these decisions somewhere.

    Are the moralists in this thread busy complaining about the local porn store? Are the amoralists in this thread busy staking out Target, which also doesn't sell porn? Get over yourselves, either way you can see whatever the hell you want with internet access on any of these devices.
  12. Ugg macrumors 68000


    Apr 7, 2003
    This is good news. I can certainly understand Apple not wanting to be known primarily as purveyors of porn, but trying to lock out the Kama Sutra and other classics is pretty stupid. Let's face it, porn is accessible through Safari. Apple needs to get over its stupid, lawyerly and timid approach to adult content. Trying to ban porn from its products is like paper manufacturers not selling their product to printers who print adult magazines.

    This is the 21st century after all and there are reasonably decent parental controls available.
  13. Doctor Q thread starter Administrator

    Doctor Q

    Staff Member

    Sep 19, 2002
    Los Angeles
    The thread is still open (here) but having it in this forum prevents Internet trolls from signing up just to incite others, which tends to happen more often on controversial topics.
  14. mkrishnan Moderator emeritus


    Jan 9, 2004
    Grand Rapids, MI, USA
    So, let me get this straight. Everyone, who has any opinion on this topic, is guilty of hypocrisy. However, you, who arbitrarily declare that your perspective of open markets self-regulating their behavior, through market-based checks and balances, is somehow neither moral nor amoral, can thereby escape the conundrum that all amoral and moral views of pornography / explicit content distribution are fundamentally hypocritical?

  15. Ja Di ksw macrumors 65816

    Ja Di ksw

    Apr 9, 2003
    I'm amazed that people would be so against Apple having a section (with Parental controls, no doubt) that lets people see boobs. How do you not see this as "freedom of choice so long as all the choices are ones you approve of"?

    I live in a town where every day I walk past posters with topless women on them. I pass by at least 3 brothels a day where prostitutes legally work. And yet, children here don't grow up to be sex addicts. They aren't corrupted. STD's aren't rampant. etc. Before you judge what will happen if a new standard is adopted, you should look at does happen in places where that standard is already adopted.

    /Going to go make a romantic dinner for my girlfriend
    //Was able to walk by 6 brothels on my way to the apt today without losing respect for women
  16. theheadguy macrumors 65816

    Apr 26, 2005
    With all due respect, the censorship of the first thread was a bit much. You could have closed the thread without removing half of the posts. But alas, we must remember that commercialism dominates over the free exchange of ideas and thoughts; hence, the entire debate over the very topic of this thread. I get it, but it was still overboard.

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