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Coffee_Time

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$699 is with US taxes included, the price will be 10% lower!
$629 will be the price from China (don't tell me you want your phone to pass 2 countries taxes before it goes to you)
$629 = £503
503 x 20% = £603
729-603 = £126 YOU'RE BEING RIPPED OFF. IMO!
Maybe I'm wrong...
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Now for the iPhone 11 Pro Max 512GB
$1449 in US
$1304 will be the price in China, from where you'll get it.
$1304 = £1043
1043 x 20% = £1251
1499-1251 = £248 now that's a SCAM!
 

johannnn

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I don't understand anything of OPs post, but here is my calculation:

USA: $699 is without state tax. If we add a 8% state tax we get $754.
China: When I check https://www.apple.com/cn/shop/buy-iphone/iphone-11/MWN12CH/A, I get 5499 RMB, and googling "5499 RMB in USD" shows $777.

So US and Chinese prices are almost identical. No idea where your 629 comes from.

The price is England is higher, but this is due to 1) much higher tax, and 2) Apple playing it safe if the currency drops after a hard Brexit.
 
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ksec

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$699 is with US taxes included, the price will be 10% lower!
$629 will be the price from China (don't tell me you want your phone to pass 2 countries taxes before it goes to you)
$629 = £503
503 x 20% = £603
729-603 = £126 YOU'RE BEING RIPPED OFF. IMO!
Maybe I'm wrong...
--- Post Merged, 1 minute ago ---
Now for the iPhone 11 Pro Max 512GB
$1449 in US
$1304 will be the price in China, from where you'll get it.
$1304 = £1043
1043 x 20% = £1251
1499-1251 = £248 now that's a SCAM!

Just Quoting this in case it gets edited.
 
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aFlockaCgulz

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$699 is with US taxes included, the price will be 10% lower!
$629 will be the price from China (don't tell me you want your phone to pass 2 countries taxes before it goes to you)
$629 = £503
503 x 20% = £603
729-603 = £126 YOU'RE BEING RIPPED OFF. IMO!
Maybe I'm wrong...
--- Post Merged, 1 minute ago ---
Now for the iPhone 11 Pro Max 512GB
$1449 in US
$1304 will be the price in China, from where you'll get it.
$1304 = £1043
1043 x 20% = £1251
1499-1251 = £248 now that's a SCAM!

Sounds like you need to lay off the coffee a bit.
 
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JPack

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I don't understand anything of OPs post, but here is my calculation:

USA: $699 is without state tax. If we add a 8% state tax we get $754.
China: When I check https://www.apple.com/cn/shop/buy-iphone/iphone-11/MWN12CH/A, I get 5499 RMB, and googling "5499 RMB in USD" shows $777.

So US and Chinese prices are almost identical. No idea where your 629 comes from.

The price is England is higher, but this is due to 1) much higher tax, and 2) Apple playing it safe if the currency drops after a hard Brexit.

China has a 13% tax, so Apple is effectively selling iPhone 11 for $689.
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Don't blame Apple when your country and others in Europe have the stupid VATs than can add 20% to the cost.

Agreed, 20% VAT is just nuts.

Apple isn't making it easier on the UK by pricing iPhone 11 at $759 either.
 
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Packers1958

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China has a 13% tax, so Apple is effectively selling iPhone 11 for $689.
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Agreed, 20% VAT is just nuts.

Apple isn't making it easier on the UK by pricing iPhone 11 at $759 either.

Apple needs the China and Indian markets more than the UK market. I don't think Apple cares that much about how many phones they sell in the UK.
 
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KrisLord

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So what does your income tax do?

The same, VAT brings in about 20% of the UK’s tax and income tax is about 30%. Both just go into the general pot for government spending.

In a fairer country we’d move more tax towards income based tax (so the well paid pay more and poor pay less) but making drastic changes is often seen negatively.

The logic being that an iPhone is a luxury whether you earn 10k or 100k or 1 million...
 
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KrisLord

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Some of the numbers here are rather odd so I figured this would simplify things

In the US an iPhone 11 is $699

In the UK an iPhone 11 is £729 including VAT.

Remove the VAT and the UK price is £607.50

Converting this to dollar via XE today is $750.95

So there’s a $51.95 difference between US and UK prices which is 7.43%.

That difference has to cover the different costs of running Apple Retail in the UK (our minimum wages are likely higher) and the potential for currency changes post Brexit.
 
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justperry

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Snip....
$1449 in US
$1304 will be the price in China, from where you'll get it.
$1304 = £1043
1043 x 20% = £1251
1499-1251 = £248 now that's a SCAM!

So, you subtract Pounds from dollars...OK.:rolleyes:

The 11 Pro though got a price hike in Europe while staying the same in the US,I also think they get too expensive.

But don't go the way you calculate, most people forget to add tax to the US prices, and Tax in Europe is higher for a reason, like paying for better consumer protection, higher personal costs, better healthcare protection amongst lots of other reasons.
 
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Coffee_Time

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699 is not with US taxes included.

Also how many more threads are you going to make being upset about new iPhones for one reason or another?

I don't understand anything of OPs post, but here is my calculation:

USA: $699 is without state tax. If we add a 8% state tax we get $754.
China: When I check https://www.apple.com/cn/shop/buy-iphone/iphone-11/MWN12CH/A, I get 5499 RMB, and googling "5499 RMB in USD" shows $777.

So US and Chinese prices are almost identical. No idea where your 629 comes from.

The price is England is higher, but this is due to 1) much higher tax, and 2) Apple playing it safe if the currency drops after a hard Brexit.

Just Quoting this in case it gets edited.

Sounds like you need to lay off the coffee a bit.

Some of the numbers here are rather odd so I figured this would simplify things

In the US an iPhone 11 is $699

In the UK an iPhone 11 is £729 including VAT.

Remove the VAT and the UK price is £607.50

Converting this to dollar via XE today is $750.95

So there’s a $51.95 difference between US and UK prices which is 7.43%.

That difference has to cover the different costs of running Apple Retail in the UK (our minimum wages are likely higher) and the potential for currency changes post Brexit.
Don't have the time to enter in details now, but will do it in the next days.
That 10% was modest. In fact the differences are way higher in taxes paid in US. And that's not considering the number of customers in Europe vs US, or that the taxes from EU, which should be paid in E.U., are paid in US. Interesting?
 

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Azathoth123

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@Coffee_Time has been stating that the $699 US price (and maybe others) includes taxes. It does not. Taxes vary state to state in the US, in round numbers 5-10%. 7% is a decent all-round figure in the US though the state that I live in is close to 10%.

Here’s a snippet from my invoice for a 256 GB iPhone 11 Pro. Notice the tax....

Please @Coffee_Time call the state of Tennessee and tell them that they’re wrong and give my tax back since it was a double charge! Lol, lots of luck with that.

Edit: and notice that the states of California and Rhode Island are taxing the same product differently than the the other 48 states.
 
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MadCar

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Can someone do the calculation to include US health care insurance as it isn't included in the price of an iPhone and I want a comparison that includes the free NHS that we get in the UK that the VAT pays for.

The comparison is really that crazy, currency fluctuates we have to live with it. That same currency fluctuation also means that if you are buying a Playstation its now cheaper as the £ has gone UP against the Yen over the pass few years not down, in the US they pay more for a PS.

Can we all stop blaming Brexit for currency issues.

Simple facts are the iPhone 11 is CHEAPER by £30 than the XR was last year and the 11 Pro Apple have decided to ADD £50 over the XS. That isn't currency issues its Apple Profits and high demand for premium models in the UK that are adding to the cost.
 
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Azathoth123

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Just for comparison of outrageous prices, a Samsung Note 10+ is $1,100 IIRC. Yes, Apple products are a ripoff, they’re all of maybe 5% more than Samsung, if that. Samsung is a ripoff too!
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I am about 85% sure the OP is a paid Samsung shill...

I have suggested before that many such posts are incentivized, negative advertising without a direct connection to the parent company. Spreading disinformation at no cost.
 
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