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Apple RAM prices are even more of a joke now.

gpzjock

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May 4, 2009
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A shyster is a shyster.

Caveat emptor never meant so much till Apple came to town. :mad:
 
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GGJstudios

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May 16, 2008
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Caveat emptor never meant so much till Apple came to town. :mad:
shyster |ˈ sh īstər|
noun informal
a person, esp. a lawyer, who uses unscrupulous, fraudulent, or deceptive methods in business.
caveat emptor |ˈempˌtôr|
noun
the principle that the buyer alone is responsible for checking the quality and suitability of goods before a purchase is made.
Nothing you've said applies here. Apple is not practicing unscrupulous, fraudulent, or deceptive methods in charging a high price for RAM. Also, the quality and suitability of their RAM is not in question, and it's backed by their warranty.

Apple's prices are plainly visible to buyers, so the buyers can decide if they want to pay those prices. Nothing is hidden. There is nothing unethical, illegal or deceptive in Apple's pricing.

If you don't like Apple's prices, don't buy RAM from them. But it is false to accuse them of anything underhanded.
 
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Macman45

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Jul 29, 2011
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The reason for Apples pricing strategy is simple. They don't want you to buy RAM from them...It's a hassle to stock, is easily pilfered and not an item they want to push when so many other specialist suppliers do the job.

That's why they post this on their support site:

http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1651

They have a guide for every Mac they make.....Wouldn't do that if they were really in the memory business would they?:D
 
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gpzjock

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May 4, 2009
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And your point is?

A shyster (play /ˈʃaɪstər/) is a slang word for someone who acts in a disreputable, unethical, or unscrupulous way, especially in the practice of law, politics or business.

Semantics aside a rip off is a rip off. If they were so keen to not stock RAM they just wouldn't.
This crap preys on the uninitiated, like the PC makers who sell crippled machines with not enough power to pull the skin off a rice pudding, to unsuspecting punters who know nothing better.
At a time of austerity, punitive memory prices when the rest of the world is slashing them is disreputable in my humble opinion.
As far as I can see most American firms seem to think Ethics is the county to the east of London. ;)

N.B. Caveat emptor translates directly as "Buyer Beware!" and those 2 words mean a lot when someone is offering £40 worth of goods for over £300.
 
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GGJstudios

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May 16, 2008
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You're entitled to your opinion, of course, but the fact remains that Apple's RAM pricing is not unfair, unethical, unscrupulous or in any way deceptive. They're not "preying" on anyone. Their prices are their prices. Take it or leave it.

I suppose you think Rolls Royce, Mercedes and BMW should all be put out of business, as well, since they charge higher prices than Hyundai and Subaru. If someone is irresponsible enough to pay for something without comparing prices, they only have themselves to blame.

Apple is in business to make a profit, like any company. They have no obligation to charge the lowest price for their products, just because some disgruntled consumer thinks they should. You can argue all day long, but Apple isn't going to change their pricing just to please you, nor should they.
 
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Ccrew

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Feb 28, 2011
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the fact remains that Apple's RAM pricing is not unfair, unethical, unscrupulous or in any way deceptive. They're not "preying" on anyone. Their prices are their prices. Take it or leave it.

Any thread that starts as to whether replacement RAM voids a machines warranty should be evidence enough to say that there's confusion on that issue. Segue that into the average consumer that thinks they *have* to buy Apple RAM and I'd say that they're at least taking advantage of of that same confusion in the marketplace.

Funnier part is if they run that kind of markup on RAM, makes ya wonder what a MBP actually costs them vs retail.
 
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Rampant.A.I.

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Ccrew said:
the fact remains that Apple's RAM pricing is not unfair, unethical, unscrupulous or in any way deceptive. They're not "preying" on anyone. Their prices are their prices. Take it or leave it.

Any thread that starts as to whether replacement RAM voids a machines warranty should be evidence enough to say that there's confusion on that issue. Segue that into the average consumer that thinks they *have* to buy Apple RAM and I'd say that they're at least taking advantage of of that same confusion in the marketplace.

Funnier part is if they run that kind of markup on RAM, makes ya wonder what a MBP actually costs them vs retail.

It's also suggests that a lot of people don't read the user manual, where it clearly tells you how to install RAM, or visit the website and look it up.
 
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sweetbrat

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Jun 17, 2009
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Any thread that starts as to whether replacement RAM voids a machines warranty should be evidence enough to say that there's confusion on that issue. Segue that into the average consumer that thinks they *have* to buy Apple RAM and I'd say that they're at least taking advantage of of that same confusion in the marketplace.

Funnier part is if they run that kind of markup on RAM, makes ya wonder what a MBP actually costs them vs retail.

Apple gives instructions for swapping the RAM right on their website. How is it unclear that it's user-replaceable and doesn't void the warranty?

Yes, Apple RAM is expensive. I look at it this way...they offer RAM upgrades for businesses and people that are too lazy or scared to do it themselves. I'm assuming that people purchasing a computer do at least a little basic research before spending a couple thousand dollars. With any amount of research it should be obvious that swapping the RAM yourself is the best option.
 
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maflynn

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May 3, 2009
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Caveat emptor never meant so much till Apple came to town. :mad:

Why are you mad, don't like their pricing, move on. There's really no point in getting upset over their pricing. No one is holding a gun to your head to buy the memory (or the mac).

Don't like their policies, then vote with your wallet and buy somewhere else.
 
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theSeb

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Aug 10, 2010
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Any thread that starts as to whether replacement RAM voids a machines warranty should be evidence enough to say that there's confusion on that issue. Segue that into the average consumer that thinks they *have* to buy Apple RAM and I'd say that they're at least taking advantage of of that same confusion in the marketplace.

Funnier part is if they run that kind of markup on RAM, makes ya wonder what a MBP actually costs them vs retail.

If people learnt to read a bit, then they would realise that the instructions for replacing the RAM are very clear.
 
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yomibro

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Feb 24, 2008
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You can opt to buy their memory or buy it somewhere else and install it yourself, no big deal.
 
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bdinger

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Jan 22, 2012
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I've been using Macs and hanging around various Apple forums and mailing lists since 2001. One of the most common themes? Expensive RAM :D

Now what's funny is that everyone always says Apple is more expensive for a comprable machine, etc etc etc. Well - no, not really. I was comparing the MacBook Pro to both the Lenovo W520 and the HP EliteBook 8560W. Guess how much RAM prices are? :)
Lenovo - 4GB to 8GB upgrade - $160
HP - 4GB to 8GB upgrade - $175

Furthermore HP will sell you a single 8GB DIMM in that system... for ~$1,800! 16GB in 4 DIMMs will cost you ~$500 from HP. Both are, of course, significant markups. Those are rough prices I was quoted, I'm not sure what "list" for the average Joe business is.

I also compared the final cost of both systems, both the HP and the Lenovo ended up being significantly more expensive than a MacBook Pro. I believe the Lenovo ended up around $3,200 once I added the 3 year warranty similar to AppleCare and the 3 year battery warranty (ripoff, AppleCare covers that..). The HP ran somewhere in the range of $2900, which is on par with the MBP after business discount. My co-worker was in the market for a machine and, similar boat, getting her a base 15in MBP actually gave her a machine with a better config that comprables, for less money.

However on both of those I'd also have to have paid a yearly Windows and Office CAL to Microsoft as we're under an EA. Right there I'm saving several hundred dollars per year by using a Mac, over the lifespan of my Pro (assuming my 4-6 year goal) it will be almost several thousand.

My point is that it's not all cut and dry. Apple's not "gouging" anyone, in fact their prices are pretty darn competitive now.
 
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MatLane

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Sep 30, 2008
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I have always used crucial for my Ram and always will.



Good pricing. I tend to buy my Macs with the low mem spec for example 4GB then upgrade in time with crucial, saves some money

I like to buy my macs low spec then gradually update them instead of forking for the top maxed out spec. The only thing i tend to upgrade on the ordering is the HD's
 
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miniConvert

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I paid for Apple RAM safely in the knowledge that I could get it elsewhere for less. Sure, it'd be nice if it were cheaper, but for the pure simplicity of having it included in the warranty/AppleCare and not having to open up my computer I still think it was worth it. For me, anyway.

I've always accepted that if you want BTO from Apple you have to pay handsomely for it. For many, buying stock is going to make much more sense.
 
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harcosparky

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Jan 14, 2008
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Caveat emptor never meant so much till Apple came to town. :mad:


Or Best Buy, Wal-Mart, K-Mart, Target, Sears, 7-11, and the list goes on.

Caveat Emptor means no more or less today, than when the phrase was first coined.

Your effort to blame Apple exclusively for hight prices isn't new either, others have tried before you! :D
 
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heisenberg123

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Oct 31, 2010
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if you get mad at apple than you have to get made a Cosair and Crucial and the rest of them for having those "mac memory" versions of the same frigin RAM they sell for about 10$ less(on a 2x4GB kit)
 
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mark28

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Jan 29, 2010
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I paid for Apple RAM safely in the knowledge that I could get it elsewhere for less. Sure, it'd be nice if it were cheaper, but for the pure simplicity of having it included in the warranty/AppleCare and not having to open up my computer I still think it was worth it. For me, anyway.

I've always accepted that if you want BTO from Apple you have to pay handsomely for it. For many, buying stock is going to make much more sense.

Apple = 1 year warranty on your RAM
3rd Party = Multi-year warranty on RAM.

So it's a terrible choice to go with Apple. It's overpriced and it sucks for warranty.
 
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LostSoul80

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Jan 25, 2009
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If they do so, that means there are people buying them.

A clever, though not so respectable, move.
 
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