Apple Server Subscriptions

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News.com reports on a new Server upgrade subscription from Apple:

Apple Computer is giving buyers of its Mac OS X Server the option of signing on for three years of unlimited access to software upgrades for the same price it charges for a single, onetime upgrade.

The Apple Maintenance Program for Mac OS X Server, available starting Saturday, is in part an attempt to stave off the threat posed by Linux and to grab Microsoft customers disgruntled with recent software-licensing price increases.
 

gandalf55

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this is a very nice server pricing plan. who wouldn't sign up for something like that? and i agree about the OSX OS thing... I would even pay, right now, something $129 that gave me an upgrade code that lasted 3 years or something. I could use the code (or a subscription card) at an Apple Store (physical store) or order online at the Apple Store. They could button up some quick cash that way and avoid some pissed off people that way.
 

Hemingray

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Ha ha haaa!
Originally posted by gandalf55
this is a very nice server pricing plan. who wouldn't sign up for something like that? and i agree about the OSX OS thing... I would even pay, right now, something $129 that gave me an upgrade code that lasted 3 years or something. I could use the code (or a subscription card) at an Apple Store (physical store) or order online at the Apple Store. They could button up some quick cash that way and avoid some pissed off people that way.
I agree, although I could also see Apple spacing out their updates more, slowing down the development of the OS. But I'm playing the devil's advocate here, of course. :p Apple would NEVER do something like that, right? ;)

In any case, this sounds like a great deal.
 

xenocytekron

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off-topic

it is a scientific fact that Jesus was in fact real. whether you believe him to be the son of god is a different matter, but saying he wasn't real is like saying abraham lincoln or albert einstein aren't real.
 

fantomas1976

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Not True at all! The latest research into "Jesus" shows that it may have been multiple people, not one single guy. Scientific American had an article on in about a year ago or so ago. Plus there are a few biblical studies books that are written on this subject, ie Tim Callahan's "origins of the bible"
 

Moonlight

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Re: off-topic

Originally posted by xenocytekron
it is a scientific fact that Jesus was in fact real. whether you believe him to be the son of god is a different matter, but saying he wasn't real is like saying abraham lincoln or albert einstein aren't real.

which scientific fact ??
 

Dunepilot

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No offence, but that research is hardly credibel, or of an academic standard - Jesus was clearly a real individual, and whether you believe that he was the son of God is your own business, but there is very strong evidence (of many kinds) that suggests that he was something more than an ordinary man.

Still, I like Fantomas - "something beautiful".
 

rugby

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Okay you thread hijackers, BEGONE!

I'm going to convince my boss to get this as we've got 2 OSX Servers at my work.

I wonder what the edu pricing will be.
 

Chisholm

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Originally posted by rugby
Okay you thread hijackers, BEGONE!

I'm going to convince my boss to get this as we've got 2 OSX Servers at my work.

I wonder what the edu pricing will be.
I hope its going to be $250 for 10 clients and $500 for unlimited.
 

reyesmac

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Good for some, but not everyone.

This would be a much better deal if it where aimed at home users of the Macintosh. I don't know about every business out there, but as far as Macs are concerned, businesses don't seem to update the Mac OS very much. And most won't upgrad from something like OS 9 to X without buying a new machine. Since most of the OS's on Macs I see is at the most 2 years ahead of whatever year the computer itself is, I don't think most businesses will get the biggest value from this deal. The only Macs running OS 9 in my company are the ones that came with it installed.

Apple makes reliable computers, and business that buy them rarely upgrade them. If it works, they don't upgrade, if it doesnt work, they switch.

Apple would be giving us a treat if they applied this to regular Mac OS versions.
 

Codemonkey

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Subscriptions and licenses and confusion

I'm all for some sort of yearly or 3-yearly subscription for vanilla OS X but the problem I'm already starting to have is keeping track of all my download keys and serial numbers and apps I've actually paid for (as opposed to iApps and shareware/freeware). For example, OS X, Quicktime 6 and .Mac.

What I would like to see is:

a) A package price
b) A way of manageing my licenses. For example, a CD with all Apple apps on it. If I want OS X, Quicktime and .Mac I should have the ability to install them all at once, and submit my choices to Apple for audit/billing confirmation (or something like that)

As it is, doing a complete recovery at this point is making me more than a bit nervous.

Just my $0.02 CAD...
 

rugby

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Codemonkey,

What's wrong with downloading software and burning it onto cd, or setting one of your Macs up as a fileserver? Software Update also can download all your apps at once.

Or are you talking about a license management server?
 

Sepulchre

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I'm still gagging on the £700 (UK) upgrade fee from a unlimited 10.1 to 10.2 Server i.e. buying a new copy and throwing the old one in the bin :( This might soften the blow of future updates though :)
 

bretm

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Re: Subscriptions and licenses and confusion

Originally posted by Codemonkey
I'm all for some sort of yearly or 3-yearly subscription for vanilla OS X but the problem I'm already starting to have is keeping track of all my download keys and serial numbers and apps I've actually paid for (as opposed to iApps and shareware/freeware). For example, OS X, Quicktime 6 and .Mac.

What I would like to see is:

a) A package price
b) A way of manageing my licenses. For example, a CD with all Apple apps on it. If I want OS X, Quicktime and .Mac I should have the ability to install them all at once, and submit my choices to Apple for audit/billing confirmation (or something like that)

As it is, doing a complete recovery at this point is making me more than a bit nervous.

Just my $0.02 CAD...
Huh? OSX - no serial. QT 6 Pro - yes a serial, back it up, email it to yourself or something - And .Mac is just an email password, you might want to memorize that one.

Adobe does a great job of keeping up with your passwords... they have a simple registration page that will show you all the software you've registered with them and the serial numbers. I recently got a new dual gig and had to do a clean install of everything. Took about a day all said. There's so much configuration and prefs to set. So many little programs I forget. But the first thing I did was make a copy of the old hard drive (or at least everything important like apps, preferences, and user folder). That came in handy a few times.

Biggest pain in the arse... FCP. I had to install version 1 (OS9), upgrade to v.2, then upgrade to version 3. Adobe just made me input the old serial numbers as did macromedia.

I basically keep all my discs with their serial number written on the sleeve. It's the only way to be sure for me.
 

Postal

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This could be a significant move by Apple, moreso than we might think... how many server operators continue to use a Windows NT variant, or Linux/Unix, simply because they didn't think that they could use a GUI or CLI to administer a particular service properly (for whatever reason) or without experiencing huge costs?

Imagine getting rackmount servers and knowing that you can keep them fully updated (if you want) without having to shell out a few hundred dollars every year to get a major revision. If you're paying for the limited-licenses version of OS X, the savings could be pretty significant (they'd still be substantial with an unlimited license).

The fun thing about all this is that the new plan is a vague (or not-so-vague) snubbing of Microsoft. Microsoft, true to their nature, now wants to lock you in to a product: if you want to use some (if not all) of their software in a large-scale license, you MUST pay for a subscription. Apple is giving you the option at no cost - it's an option, not a mandate! Yes, you would end up using a Mac (or Macs), but at least you're not wasting money on software you may not want to keep. Heck, use a PPC Linux variant if you don't like OS X Server...
 

Rocketman

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Originally posted by gandalf55
this is a very nice server pricing plan. who wouldn't sign up for something like that? and i agree about the OSX OS thing... I would even pay, right now, something $129 that gave me an upgrade code that lasted 3 years or something. I could use the code (or a subscription card) at an Apple Store (physical store) or order online at the Apple Store. They could button up some quick cash that way and avoid some pissed off people that way.
That's a really good suggestion for Apple Computer, Inc.

Rocketman
 

Rocketman

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Originally posted by rugby
Codemonkey,

What's wrong with downloading software and burning it onto cd, or setting one of your Macs up as a fileserver? Software Update also can download all your apps at once.

Or are you talking about a license management server?
But OSX can do that and a thousand things more with scripts and procedures.

Just need a disc of scripts and what they do IN DETAIL.

Know of any of those?

Rocketman.
 

Codemonkey

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Messy and time consuming

Originally posted by rugby
Codemonkey,

What's wrong with downloading software and burning it onto cd, or setting one of your Macs up as a fileserver? Software Update also can download all your apps at once.

Or are you talking about a license management server?
Your suggestion would be good for a home user with a lot of tiem on their hands and little concern for people 'borrowing' a work CD to take home for a weekend (complete with the pkg files and your bought license #'s for each pkg), but for a small or medium sized business going that route would be messy and time consuming.

But, now this thread and the point is getting old, so I digress.

Thanks!

Chris.