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Apple TV+ Show 'Dickinson' to Premiere at Tribeca TV Festival on September 14
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I think you have no idea what Apple knows or doesn’t know. No one does. And no company aims to create content for “America”. Digital streaming is all about niche audiences. I can’t tell exactly what their strategy is at this point, but I’m guessing they are targeting certain demographics and psychographics that they feel will help them overall, and I’m certain it will all be more clear once they debut the service.
I never got into The Big Bang Theory, or America’s Got Talent, but I’ve watched shows that would probably fall within the same broad categories, like Seinfeld and Iron Chef America. And watching Luther because I like Idris Elba in The Wire led me to the deep, deep hole that is excellent BBC shows on Amazon Prime and Netflix.
I’m not sure Apple TV+ will have the content to recommend that if I decide I want a show like Emily, but don’t like the writing in Emily, here’s a different show along the same lines you might enjoy. I, personally, have never subscribed to a service that didn’t also include a vast selection of alternatives.
I’m not sure Apple TV+ will have the content to recommend that if I decide I want a show like Emily, but don’t like the writing in Emily, here’s a different show along the same lines you might enjoy. I, personally, have never subscribed to a service that didn’t also include a vast selection of alternatives.
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To all the nerdy dudes ripping this trailer: wake tf up. This show ain’t for you. It’s targeted at educated teen girls, young women, and literate types who enjoy genre mashups. Will it succeed or fail? That’s up to the target. But for the love of god, please stop thinking that all media revolves around your geeky, male tastes.
Yep, because that's such a major part of Apple's current core customer base
So basically, Apple is ignoring what its existing built-in fan base would enjoy and leaving them feeling jilted in the hopes that they will somehow generate a significant TV+ viewership from outside the ecosystem?
The fact that you have to address your post "to all the nerdy dudes ripping this...." shows even you get that Apple has fans whose interests are totally being ignored. Great business plan there.
You think that nerdy computer dudes are having their needs ignored? Do you watch TV? There are more shows for that target already on the market than any other. That segment of the market is fairly saturated. Why join that market when they can target and make hay with a less served audience?Yep, because that's such a major part of Apple's current core customer base
So basically, Apple is ignoring what its existing built-in fan base would enjoy and leaving them feeling jilted in the hopes that they will somehow generate a significant TV+ viewership from outside the ecosystem?
The fact that you have to address your post "to all the nerdy dudes ripping this...." shows even you get that Apple has fans whose interests are totally being ignored. Great business plan there.
If you know anything about Apple you know not to judge anything pre-release. No one in the public has any idea what they’re doing until it’s released.
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Which hardly anyone outside the US ever watches. Kardashian - that’s the wife of that simpleton-rapper, right? but wtf is a Honey Boo-Boo?
yeah, but if you know anything about tv or movies, it‘s that a trailer is often pretty representative, if you know what to look for. we‘ll see in the end - but everything I‘ve seen so far looks very forced.
and yes, I realize, I‘m not the target audience for amazing stories, servant, little voice, dickinson, swagger, truth be told, see, my glory was i had such friends, the morning show, defending jacob, home before dark and central park.
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Nah not for me. Not sure anything Apple is showing at the moment will get me to sign up to yet another streaming service.
MEANWHILE I am literally ready to punch my money through the TV screen for Disney+. Cant wait.
MEANWHILE I am literally ready to punch my money through the TV screen for Disney+. Cant wait.
The more overload of entertainment subscription services (or advertising of them), the more I'm tempted to just cancel all of them and not care about pop culture. I still have Netflix but I barely watch anything - it's all disturbing, gory, violent and sadistic shows that I don't understand how anyone can enjoy watching.
Hailee is a excellent upcoming actress. She was great in Begin Again and knocked it out in Bumblee. The modern twist on a period drama is interesting, but I have no doubt she’ll be great in this. I’ll certainly watch this when its released and hypes me up for Apple TV+ even more.
Yep, because that's such a major part of Apple's current core customer base
So basically, Apple is ignoring what its existing built-in fan base would enjoy and leaving them feeling jilted in the hopes that they will somehow generate a significant TV+ viewership from outside the ecosystem?
The fact that you have to address your post "to all the nerdy dudes ripping this...." shows even you get that Apple has fans whose interests are totally being ignored. Great business plan there.
Since when are young women not a part of Apple's customer base? Most young girls I know love Apple's iPhone and other products. They like the style. Apple making a point to pay attention to them is a smart move. There are a lot of men that like to think that the world revolves around them... It doesn't. Women do make up half of the population.
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You need to do better searches. I do not like gore or violence and there is more on Netflix than I have time to watch. I love the documentaries and the historical series. There are a few comedies I also enjoy.
sorry..tired of this nonsense. need a break from these twitter trends.
Well, first of all we're talking about Apple, not the entire Hollywood industry, so nice try to deploy a smoke cloud of the steaming pile that is TV+
Second, aside from the fact that your comment is completely irrelevant to the discussion of TV+, yes the nerdy market is being ignored in media these days. I know you want to pretend things like MCU are nerd porn, but you'd be completely wrong. Movies like that are mindless shoot-em-up action movies with zero plot or story, and cheesy dialog with idiotic one-liners. "Nerds" don't like that. For example, I can't stand those movies while my wife who is certainly not a nerd but an action movie fan loves them.
This whole trend of action dressed up as sci-fi has killed any real nerd content. Star Trek: Discovery is an horrible generic action show that has no feel of star trek to it, and is not at all interesting to people who like space opera like the other star trek series. I find ST
to be about as much fun as an actual STD, and I say that as a huge trek fan who used to go to cons and still has boxes of cards in the basement. Thinkgeek.com found out the hard way that harry potter and action movies are not nerd content and they went bankrupt trying to sell that junk. They were successfully selling math equation t-shirt, Klein-bottle models, lab glassware shaped mugs, etc. And they switched to selling pop-culture t-shirts and pretending it was geek stuff.
Well, first of all we're talking about Apple, not the entire Hollywood industry, so nice try to deploy a smoke cloud of the steaming pile that is TV+
Second, aside from the fact that your comment is completely irrelevant to the discussion of TV+, yes the nerdy market is being ignored in media these days. I know you want to pretend things like MCU are nerd porn, but you'd be completely wrong. Movies like that are mindless shoot-em-up action movies with zero plot or story, and cheesy dialog with idiotic one-liners. "Nerds" don't like that. For example, I can't stand those movies while my wife who is certainly not a nerd but an action movie fan loves them.
This whole trend of action dressed up as sci-fi has killed any real nerd content. Star Trek: Discovery is an horrible generic action show that has no feel of star trek to it, and is not at all interesting to people who like space opera like the other star trek series. I find ST
Thinkgeek.com found out the hard way that harry potter and action movies are not nerd content and they went bankrupt trying to sell that junk. They were successfully selling math equation t-shirt, Klein-bottle models, lab glassware shaped mugs, etc. And they switched to selling pop-culture t-shirts and pretending it was geek stuff.
I too am a bit disappointed with the current Star Trek... I am waiting to see if things will improve. The last movie didn't do much for me and I have yet to actually watch it. Still I think it is worthwhile for Apple like Netflix to pay attention to all groups. There is no point in trying to do what Disney does when we already have Disney.
I agree with you about not trying to do what Disney is doing because Disney's already doing it so well, but I feel like that's exactly what Apple is doing. They're making everything g/pg family friendly. They're trying to promote everything to a mass market which in today's media market means everything has to be vapid and can't touch any real issues. And everything I've seen of them so far is so PC it just feels unreal and impossible to connect to. This Dickinson series is a perfect example of that based on the trailer so far.
I am a huge fan of Asimov's Foundation and future history, so a good Foundation series alone is worth the cost of admission to me. But I'm really not holding my breath. I will definitely give it a good look beyond the trailers, but I fully expect it to be a total train-wreck that will just annoy actual fans of the books.
I thought the last Star Trek movie was pretty bad too. IMO, they're just generic action space movies with little story and a very thinly placed Star Trek theming. It would be the same movie without the Star Trek name.
Star Trek was about an idealized future when technology took away most of the day to day struggle so it could explore humanity (and of course have fun scenarios when the tech fails). The sci-fi theming made it removed enough from actual groups and people that they could put a huge magnifying glass on major real world social issues without offending anyone yet allow for a discussion of those real issues. Modern Star Trek just doesn't have enough thought in it to do any of that.
There's clearly a lot of projection in your reply, and you pretending to know what I think, but none of it is accurate. Of course my point is relevant to ATV+. The jist of the whole discussion was why Apple was focusing their content on what appears to be women and teen girls, and some guy complaining that they weren't targeting viewers like him. You can parse words all you want and play semantic games about what makes a nerd, but your critique of Star Trek is totally beside the point. The discussion was about how Apple is targeting an underserved market, and one that they obviously feel is important for them to serve, and either maintain or grow. There are plenty of producers in Hollywood targeting dudes. And if you think that male nerds are less served than women or teen girls in streaming TV, your head is in the sand.Well, first of all we're talking about Apple, not the entire Hollywood industry, so nice try to deploy a smoke cloud of the steaming pile that is TV+
Second, aside from the fact that your comment is completely irrelevant to the discussion of TV+, yes the nerdy market is being ignored in media these days. I know you want to pretend things like MCU are nerd porn, but you'd be completely wrong. Movies like that are mindless shoot-em-up action movies with zero plot or story, and cheesy dialog with idiotic one-liners. "Nerds" don't like that. For example, I can't stand those movies while my wife who is certainly not a nerd but an action movie fan loves them.
This whole trend of action dressed up as sci-fi has killed any real nerd content. Star Trek: Discovery is an horrible generic action show that has no feel of star trek to it, and is not at all interesting to people who like space opera like the other star trek series. I find ST
Thinkgeek.com found out the hard way that harry potter and action movies are not nerd content and they went bankrupt trying to sell that junk. They were successfully selling math equation t-shirt, Klein-bottle models, lab glassware shaped mugs, etc. And they switched to selling pop-culture t-shirts and pretending it was geek stuff.
Also, you calling TV+ a "steaming pile", without having watched a single show, puts you in the same category as ultra-right wing Christian conservatives, Muslim fundamentalists, and every other group of self-righteous know-it-alls who pass judgement on media before they ever see it. I'll wait until ATV+ launches and actually watch a few of their series before I make any declarative statements about it.