Apple two button Mouse

Mr Jobs

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Two button mouse....yes
Bluetooth...yes
Scroll Wheel...yes and no, not a wheel like the one on microsoft intelli mouse but think along the lines of the iPod
 

arn

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interesting first post...

We'll see... I guess

arn
 

jelloshotsrule

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i think the scroll wheel on the pod is a bit too sensitive for mouse use...

i personally think if they do release a bluetooth 2 button, then there will have to be some way to plug it... i don't think apple would create one that requires BT without it being standard.

we'll see.
 

iGav

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Mr Jobs...... is in London..... :eek: :eek: :eek:

He must be here for the Apple Design Seminar.......:p

Will see you there Mr Jobs....... My Polaroid camera and autograph book are ready!! :D ;) :p
 

Mr Jobs

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IGAV - First of all I never claimed to be ‘Steven Paul Jobs’ but my surname also happens to be ‘Jobs’ you just assumed I was the apple CEO, but if you still want my autograph no problem...muhahahahahaaaaa

The Scroll Wheel was originally developed by Sony I believe, as a one handed easy to use interface for it consumer products called a ‘Jog-dial’. Companies like Microsoft adopted it for use on a PC.

Ever been on a web page where the page was so long you had to viciously flick your index finger up and down on the Scroll wheel to reach the other end of the page. All those intelli mouse users will know what I’m talking about.

That’s where the iPod wheel comes in, it allows one to scroll as much or as less as they want without lifting the finger in one full fluid motion.

The sensitivity of the wheel of the iPod can be modified to suit a desktop environment in answer to ‘jelloshotsrule’ question.

Remember apple innovates; they take an existing technology and improve upon it in a positive manor. The iPod wheel is far superior then Sony’s wheel (gog-dile), why would Apple use someone else’s technology when they already have a superior one themselves.
 

jelloshotsrule

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Originally posted by Mr Jobs
That’s where the iPod wheel comes in, it allows one to scroll as much or as less as they want without lifting the finger in one full fluid motion.

The sensitivity of the wheel of the iPod can be modified to suit a desktop environment in answer to ‘jelloshotsrule’ question.

Remember apple innovates; they take an existing technology and improve upon it in a positive manor. The iPod wheel is far superior then Sony’s wheel (gog-dile), why would Apple use someone else’s technology when they already have a superior one themselves.
very good point on the continuous scrolling point... and yeah, i basically think they'd just have to implement a sensitivity option. which isn't available currently in the pod, is it?

very good points though. i just wonder if/how they'd get that onto a mouse mechanically..
 

cleo

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This may just be my lesbian self talking, but... wouldn't that motion - with a forefinger, no less - get a bit tiring after a while?

Seriously, though... I see your point, but I think most people would wind up lifting their finger and moving the same section of wheel over and over again. It's just an awkward movement.
 

jelloshotsrule

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i think that most people would lift their finger, whether it's because they're used to it that way or because they get tired...

i think the main thing is that, if needed, they COULD just continuously wheel around... not always necessary, but it could be at some point...
 

arn

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Originally posted by Mr Jobs

That’s where the iPod wheel comes in, it allows one to scroll as much or as less as they want without lifting the finger in one full fluid motion.
Is this just personal speculation or are you basing this on a hint of a word from somewhere?

arn
 

LethalWolfe

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Originally posted by Mr Jobs

Ever been on a web page where the page was so long you had to viciously flick your index finger up and down on the Scroll wheel to reach the other end of the page. All those intelli mouse users will know what I’m talking about.

That's why I click the wheel and use "auto-scroll" The screen scrolls as fast/slow as I want w/very little mouse movement.


Lethal
 

Tommy!

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Originally posted by Mr Jobs

Remember apple innovates; they take an existing technology and improve upon it in a positive manor. The iPod wheel is far superior then Sony’s wheel (gog-dile), why would Apple use someone else’s technology when they already have a superior one themselves.
I have a sony telephone thats a cordless and corded phone in one that I got like a year and a half ago... and the jog dial at the base is an identical design to the ipod's. Its like a disc with a button in the middle. And the functions are almost identical. The wheel for scrollling, the button for selecting. Apple is a great innovator, but in this case I think they have ripped off sony a bit.
 

mmmdreg

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That pic looks alright but a standard scroll is more likely...also, you know how the current mouse has no button on the top but the base is the button (as in the base pushes into the mouse like a button rather than the top pushing down)..well wouldn't this mean the mouse would probably look completely different anyway? that was completely irrelevant...but anyway...and if they did make a 2button mouse, would they bother to make it ergonomical or just the standard shape?

how about some speculation by me...could they have like a mouse/trackpad hybrid so there are 2 buttons and a 3rd centred button with an integrated mini-trackpad so u can move your finger up and down that and you can click it like a normal scroll-wheel...thats more unique so it may suit Apple more...???
 

Beej

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Re: Re: Mr Job's fantasy mouse

Originally posted by cleo
This may just be my lesbian self talking, but... wouldn't that motion - with a forefinger, no less - get a bit tiring after a while?

Seriously, though... I see your point, but I think most people would wind up lifting their finger and moving the same section of wheel over and over again. It's just an awkward movement.
Cleo, you've just won my first ever:

"That's damn funny" award

I think I'll make a habit of handing them out to hilarious posts... :D
 

cleo

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Re: Re: Re: Mr Job's fantasy mouse

Originally posted by Beej
Cleo, you've just won my first ever:

"That's damn funny" award

I think I'll make a habit of handing them out to hilarious posts... :D
LOL, thanks :) I was wondering if anyone would pick up on that. :D
 

lucs

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haha

Dude, no way. I mean, that wheel in the middle is just unnatural. Try twisting your index finger and see how awkward it is.....it feels fine for the first seconds, but doing that continuously would probably make your finger fall off in the long run.....i like the two buttons tho, they look sweet. But sweetness is not everything, apple should develop some kind of mechanism that would allow you to scroll up and down by using a wheel like in the microsoft mice but with the sensitivity of the ipod.

Now thats golden my man, like, taking the best out of stuff and creating a super something made of all kinds of parts of stuff.
 

lucs

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side wheel

like a regular microsoft scroll wheel but sideways (horizontally, instead of vertically positioned)? thats a better idea, and it would be less clutter on top of the mouse...

but they would have to make a really comfortable and well proportioned chasis....different hand sizes is a potential issue...
 

cb911

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if Apple does bring out a new mouse it had better be pretty good. if it doesn't have 4 buttons and a scroll wheel i'm going to get a Microsoft or Logitech mouse.
 

peterjhill

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I bought a Logitech optical two button, scroll wheel mouse about six months ago, and bought a second one for my other computer a week later. Two buttons is very nice, scroll is nice, wireless would be very nice, if it comes with a rechargeable battery and a charger.

I don't think Apple (specifically Steve Jobs) will force a two button mouse onto users, but I could imagine them having one as a BTO item. Context menus are cool and helpful. Not to mention that if Apple wants to get Linux and Unix users to come over to the Mac, their mice want to have THREE buttons. I would like to see a two button mouse with a scroll wheel that I can click (for paste).

Well, them there's my two cents ;-)