I understand that as far as business goes it makes complete sense, but, it is still putting Windows users above the Mac faithful that paid through the teeth for early models (I paid £470 for a 10GB!!!!), and so supported the product initially and gave Apple the backing to continue to improve the product, and eventually even make the thing available to Windows users.Yvan256 said:More PCs have USB/USB2.0 than Firewire. More PC users buy iPods than Mac users. Hence it only makes sense to supply the USB cable instead of Firewire.
I proposed this in a similar thread partly in jest, but the lack of a cable is no big shake, when iPods cost less. Another thought, many people buy USB printers in the UK and they don't come with cables, but scanners do...work that out?redAPPLE said:would it not be a better "business" decision to ask the customer prior to purchase, which cable they would prefer?
it gives the buyer "choice".
Yes, but you can't boot either computer from your iPod using USB2.0, but you can with FireWire.Lacero said:Both my tower and PB have USB2.0. I can charge my iPod on either USB or Firewire.
Well who in their right mind buys an iPod so they can boot their Mac off it. Thats just a nice extra feature, but its not a reason why Apple should include a FW cable. Lets remember that the main purpose of an iPod is to STORE and PLAY MUSIC, not everything else that it can do.macFanDave said:Yes, but you can't boot either computer from your iPod using USB2.0, but you can with FireWire.
One application of an iPod (other than the mini) is that is can be used as a bootable drive from which you can save a Mac that is having problems, or you want to do some diagnosis or maintenance tasks.
Windows folks with their Dell DJ's will never be able to do that!
Do you think Apple produces iPods for free? I'd imagine with the color screens at a MUCH lower price, the cuts have to come from somewhere. Most people charge their iPod from the cable itself, so its really not necessary for Apple to include the Power Adapter. I very rarely use mine as its charged from my Mac. Only the mini doesn't include the power adapter. There are so many cool, very cheap cases out there so that isn't a huge issue. The only issue here becomes the dock which isn't a necessity to make the iPod/mini function so whats the big deal.applekid said:They're cutting costs way too much. The more I think about it, I don't care we're missing the FireWire cable, but let's remember what else is not included in the box anymore (depending on model): dock, case, FireWire cable, and power adapter.
When I bought my 3G iPod, I got a dock, case, and power adapter. I'm going to have to think twice before purchasing my next iPod or iPod mini or even iPod Photo. I am not going blow another $100 on accessories just because Apple wants a higher profit margin. I doubt tossing in all of these accessories are going to raise costs that much. Remember, if Apple is selling these accessories at $20 or $30, they're still making some sort of profit, so they really are cheaper to make than what we're paying.
I'm going to fire of an e-mail later. This is just unacceptable.
Full speed compatibility with pretty much every PC sold in the last three years or so. The Mac only adopted USB 2 in mid to late 2003.nagromme said:What exactly does USB 2 give PC users that it doesn't give Mac users?