Apple's new Mac Pro is a speed demon

Discussion in ' News Discussion' started by MacBytes, Mar 15, 2008.

  1. MacBytes macrumors bot

    Jul 5, 2003
  2. Genghis Khan macrumors 65816

    Genghis Khan

    Jun 3, 2007
    Melbourne, Australia
  3. jayducharme macrumors 68030


    Jun 22, 2006
    The thick of it
    Yeah, I noticed that too. I would expect a bit more speed for the extra $2000.

    I also thought the comment on memory prices was remarkable: $9100 for 32 gb of RAM. I bought 4 gb of Macbook memory from Crucial for $100. I just checked and Crucial is selling 8 gb of RAM for a MacPro at a whopping $1049! That seems a bit absurd when a 32gb Touch is selling for $499. I know the MacPro uses a special type of memory, but sheesh. :confused:
  4. Full of Win macrumors 68030

    Full of Win

    Nov 22, 2007
    Ask Apple
    To compare RAM vs. ROM is way off. It's like me saying - 4 GB of RAM for my MacBook is a rip because I can a 4.7 GB DVD for less than 50 cents. With that said, the prices on that type of RAM has gone down a lot since late 2006.
  5. Drumjim85 macrumors 68030


    Oct 7, 2007
    DFW, TX
    I found 4gb of ram for the new mac pro for $220...
    And yes the ram is special.. ECC fully buffered.
  6. SimonMW macrumors 6502

    Jan 15, 2008
    This is why I wasn't too bothered about getting my quad core, even though they brought out the new eight cores 2 months later. Even if the new ones are twice as fast in some operations, it isn't enough to make me wish I had waited.

    Now, 16 or 32 cores and the speed increases there, then you'd be talking and I'd consider upgrading.
  7. johnnyjibbs macrumors 68030


    Sep 18, 2003
    London, UK
    To be expected. Those that need the most speed now to be competitive in business buy a Mac Pro. For those where processing is less time-critical can afford to wait a couple of years and get the same speed with a Mac Mini. That doesn't help if you need a 30" screen, but you can see the point.
  8. CWallace macrumors 603


    Aug 17, 2007
    Seattle, WA
    Depends on what you're doing. Notice the DVD to MP4 conversion went from almost four hours on the Mini to a bit more then forty minutes on the Mac Pro. And the Mini took twice as long as the actual AVI file's length to convert it to MP4 where as the Mac Pro did it in one-quarter the actual runtime.

    I have an Al 24" iMac and I love it for everything I do now, but I plan to convert my DVD and AVI files to MP4 to use with an :apple:TV so I am buying a Mac Pro because it will save me weeks, literally, in time as well as allowing me to continue working normally while the Mac Pro chews through the data in the background.
  9. mklos macrumors 68000


    Dec 4, 2002
    My house!
    Well not all FB ECC RAM is created the same. It may be cheap, but when it starts to get hotter than the more expensive RAM would, the Mac Pro will have to clock it down, and thus, you start to lose performance. So it may be cheap, but you'll definitely get what you pay for.
  10. utekineir macrumors 6502

    Feb 20, 2008
    qft, i just got a new baseline mac pro after having a mac mini for the last several months.

    Encoding movies for atv on the mini means doing about 5 or 6 a day and not being able to do much else on the machine.

    On the mac pro even with the base 2 gigs ram i was encoding 3 moves at a time each one much faster than the mini did one, and still doing anything else i wanted to do on the machine. It would encode about 15 movies overnight while i was sleeping. The mac mini would have done about 2 in that time.

    The multitasking really is phenominal. Now with 10 gigs ram I can encode 3 movies, run vista64 in vmware, be watching tv off my slingbox, still have all the standard stuff going (itunes, mail, chat, etc) and be able to play wow at a frame rate not too far off from what it gets without anything else running.

    No comparison to a mini.

    Also you can order 8 gigs of ram for $400 online.
  11. Analog Kid macrumors 68040

    Analog Kid

    Mar 4, 2003
    My dual 2.5GHz G5 died last month and I replaced it with a 2.8x8. Aperture goes much more smoothly, though it wasn't a slouch on the old machine. The biggest difference I've seen, as others have pointed out, is that there's always room for another process. I can run a simulation and write the documents at the same time, manipulating figures and images as I go.

    The biggest lag I see, particularly in Aperture and Finder, is that the hard drives are now a serious bottleneck. Thumbnailing only keeps the cores partially occupied because they have to wait for the data to come off the disk. I've got two 500GBs in a software RAID, and I'm thinking of adding two more to see if that gives me a boost.
    Do you ever do any work? :D
  12. UCLA-Bruin macrumors member


    Feb 19, 2008
    No kidding. I'm not worried about this guy's computer evaluation so much as his existential dilemma manifest by his own description of his computer tasks. Get a life, not just an iLife. :D This guy sounds like he needs some direction, maybe a counselor or mentor or something? Dude, here's some free advice - trade your Pro in for a laptop and use it outdoors among nature - watch sunsets and sunrises - get a slower computer and do some painting while you wait for the encoding. Pry your cheese-puff crusted hands :) from the keyboard and move on with your life. Learn to surf.
  13. TravisReynolds macrumors regular


    Mar 2, 2008
  14. utekineir macrumors 6502

    Feb 20, 2008
    I've had it for about 3 days, its winter and its a weekend. Sorry if the only thing i've had to do in that time on it is dicking around, i know that doesn't meet your requirements sir. Obviously when its encoding i need to sit by it the entire time.

    I'll let you know when my fat cheese puff eating ass has had it long enough to put it to real use. Thanks for assuming you know me though. Irl i'm fat pale bald and i live in a basement.

    Have a nice day
  15. Drumjim85 macrumors 68030


    Oct 7, 2007
    DFW, TX
    so you're saying i should get the stock apple ram?? cause it's a lot more money...
  16. Analog Kid macrumors 68040

    Analog Kid

    Mar 4, 2003
    Not sure if your response was meant to include me. I wasn't trying to be cutting, just noticed that the "benchmarking" tasks were kinda funny. If you take a slice of anyone's life it never represents the whole-- and therein lies the humor. No offense meant.
  17. Tallest Skil macrumors P6

    Tallest Skil

    Aug 13, 2006
    1 Geostationary Tower Plaza
    He's saying to only get RAM from Apple dealers with the Mac Pro heatsink, like OWC. There are generic server FB-DIMMs that have mediocre heatsinks out there.

    NEVER buy more than the stock RAM from Apple.
  18. twoodcc macrumors P6


    Feb 3, 2005
    Right side of wrong
    i liked the article. made me think back when i first got my 1st gen mac pro. it's still serving me well. when we get over 10 cores, i'll think about adding a second mac pro to my network :cool:

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