Apple's next OS revision

Discussion in 'Mac Apps and Mac App Store' started by pilotgi, Feb 23, 2004.

  1. pilotgi macrumors regular

    Jul 22, 2002
    “Apple is about to show off just how innovative it can really be. Without giving it all away, we’ve decided it would be great to goose the Mac faithful a bit with a peek into what will most assuredly be the biggest advance in OS X’s short history.”

    An interesting story I ran across. Take it with a grain of salt. Link
  2. mikeyredk macrumors 65816

    Mar 13, 2003
    this might be true

    last thursday i went to this cocoa programming class and the guy was hinting about something big coming up
  3. HexMonkey Administrator


    Staff Member

    Feb 5, 2004
    New Zealand
    I've now seen three completely different predictions of the major new features of 10.4. Personally, this looks like the least useful for me. Speech recognition only understands me about 50% of the time (in fact I had to make up an accent to get some phrases to work), and even if there was a huge improvement on this in 10.4/5, I prefer other methods of communicating with the computer. If you did everything on it by talking, you'd be telling everyone around you exactly what you are doing, and you might also irritate them if you're in a quiet place.
  4. G4scott macrumors 68020


    Jan 9, 2002
    Austin, TX
    Uh, aren't embedded apps what got microsoft into so much trouble in the first place? I personally like the idea of being able to choose what I use (even though I mainly use the Apple apps...)

    And voice recognition software on my PowerBook would slow it down beyond all belief...

    I like the other 10.4/5 rumors... A super optimized OS, super fast UI, and stuff like that... I think embedding apps makes the OS way too specific for certain users, and more complex for others.

    That, and I hope they have a 64 bit version ready by the next major release...
  5. agreenster macrumors 68000


    Dec 6, 2001
    Walt Disney Animation Studios
    Voice commands........


    I'm much more efficient without voice commands. Maybe if they could teach it to understand the human language, they may be on to something...
  6. MoparShaha macrumors 68000


    May 15, 2003
    San Francisco
    This level of voice recognition is quite a ways away. As it stands right now, Speech Recognition needs fairly structured phrases, and it still gets many of these wrong. Also, the amount of commands are very limited right now. I don't see how Apple is all of a sudden going to whip out a completely voice driven interface. It is no simple task, and the processing demand would be extaordinary. I just don't buy it. The whole imbedded app thing doesn't make any sense either. It almost sounds counter-intuitive to not have the app be a real "app".
  7. CmdrLaForge macrumors 601


    Feb 26, 2003
    around the world
    Computer, please stop all these non-sense rumors on the web. Do it so. :D
  8. Sparky's macrumors 6502a


    Feb 11, 2004
    I agree with G4scott, I want selection and choices I make. I am a Graphics professional and the amount of "extra frivolous" junk in my OS is not welcome at all. Voice recognition has been around a long time and has improved slowly over the years. I can think of writing scripts that could do everything mentioned in that article. Yes they take time to write but once done a simple voice comand to execute script "alpha one" would work very nicely!
  9. suzerain macrumors regular

    Oct 5, 2000
    Beijing, China
    this horrifies me

    I can't put it any other way.

    I am a full-time Web developer who just today wasted over an hour because Sfari decided to stop submitting forms that are marked as multipart/form-data, while Camino, IE and Firefox were fine.

    I also have been bitten by the iTunes freezing problems from time to time that freeze the entire OS (something that is not supposed to be possible in OS X). This has gotten considerable mention on Apple's discussion boards, with hundreds of replies.

    Further, iChat in earlier iterations wouldn't save file downloads to folders named with Unicode characters.

    The list goes on and on.

    Centralizing things like this just makes you ask for problems. One nasty bug in WebCore, for example, will be able to bring down several apps at once...or even the entire OS.

    And yes, as someone pointed out, this is the kind of sleazy **** Microsoft was pulling a few years back. Apple has already started down that road by not allowing you to set your default Web browser from inside System Preferences (in Panther). You have to launch Safari, and select "Preferences" to change your default browser to Firefox!

    Ugh. I sure hope this rumor is bogus.
  10. jimthorn macrumors 6502a


    Apr 24, 2003
    Huntington Beach, CA, USA
    Uh, I don't think so.

    "Computer, who is my congressman" indeed.
  11. 7on macrumors 601


    Nov 9, 2003
    Dress Rosa
    I think the Network browser should be separate form Finder. That'd make network freezes not to freeze up finder.

    Integrating apps is bad. For one, the Mac would not be catering to the user as much. Like if the user wants to get rid of iChat, they couldn't. It'd be like MSN Messenger for XP. Sure they could build better "integration" with the apps, but the OS should remain separate.

    If 10.4 utilizes Voice commands, it'd be used as much as Speech recognition is used in Panther. Sure it might give those without hands better useablitiy, but the fact remains that the majority of people wouldn't use it. Of course I'm not saying don't include it, we know the drummer for Def Leppard might want a more pleasant computing experience.

    PS. some voice recognition is present in Panther
    sys prefs>Speech>Speech Recognization> Commands

    All in all 10.4 hopefully will fix network browsing...
  12. SpaceMagic macrumors 68000


    Oct 26, 2003
    Cardiff, Wales

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