Appropriate compensation for 9+ hours @ Apple Store, $800, and still no solution?

Discussion in 'iPhone' started by mattcube64, Jun 16, 2013.

  1. mattcube64 macrumors 65816


    May 21, 2006
    Hi all!

    Really, really long story short: Last night my phone gave me a SIM error. Turns out when I flipped with a white box/refurb a few months ago, Apple accidentally gave me a Canadian carrier-locked phone, even though I'm in the US on AT&T. I hit two Apple stores, an AT&T store, and was exclusively devoted to this from 9am -6pm tonight.

    Eventually, they had to go up up up into support, and supposedly my phone will begin working in 24 hours - but they're not sure. And after an entire day without a phone and all those issues, and a week ahead of me busy at work, I ended up just buying a brand new iPhone, unsubsidized, for about $800 with the agreement I'll just return it when they get my old phone working.


    I was extremely polite, and constantly told them I knew it wasn't their fault - that **** happens. But, at the core, this was 100% *Apple's* fault; and they wasted an entire day of my time, and I had to put a $800+ "hold" on my account in light of their inability to solve the issue.

    The manager asked me if I needed a case or Applecare around 2, and I declined. I said that if it was solved today, I would seek nothing. However, that if it didn't get solved, I would hope for some level of compensation. Well, it didn't get solved today. I have the manager's card, and he told me to call him once everything was figured out to "make it right."

    Assuming it *is* solved tomorrow - and I'm not confident - what do you feel is appropriate compensation?

    I don't want to be that guy... you know? **** does happen. But on the flip side - between two 70+ hour work weeks and lots of travel - my Sunday and my sanity are valuable.

    I was thinking of trying out that new Fitbit One or whatever - seems intriguing but not worth $130. Does that seem like an appropriate request? Is that too greedy? Or not fair for me? To be honest - a case or some $30 junket doesn't really make me feel any better. Honestly, a day of work pays me more than that Jawbone costs - so I honestly feel like a new Airport Extreme is more appropriate; but then I tell myself that's too pricey and to be thankful for anything.

  2. braddick macrumors 68040


    Jun 28, 2009
    Encinitas, CA
    I would expect nothing but the gratitude of a grateful Apple employee for the restraint and patience I demonstrated as this issue was sorted out.
  3. mattcube64 thread starter macrumors 65816


    May 21, 2006
    Wait... I feel like that was snarky but I don't know what side you fell on? ;p

    Are you one of those that was helping me?! That's pretty awesome if so.

    If true, I hope you understand the point I was trying to make in my original post - I recognize none of this was the staff's fault; I certainly appreciate their help and am thankful for their time. But, as for Apple as a whole, they certainly wasted my time by giving me the incorrect phone in the first place.
  4. barkomatic macrumors 68040

    Aug 8, 2008
    OP, were you in Canada when you took your iPhone in? Generally, U.S. stores don't even stock carrier locked foreign iPhones.

    If you *were* in the U.S. then that's a big blunder on the part of the store. I don't think you'd be greedy with your proposal.

    If you made the switch in Canada--then the error is a little more understandable.
  5. jer04 macrumors regular


    Nov 17, 2012
    Townsville, Australia
    I was told last time when I got compensated that I could choose one item from the store that is worth up to certain amount of money and it cannot be apple care, iPod, Apple TV etc etc..(a list of apple brand products) not sure what if the manager you are dealing with told you that. I ended up getting a fitbit scale...

    Yes it's apple's fault and the staff that you were dealing with did not make this mistake. However, you are really getting a compensation from apple, not from that individual. Just feel free to tell them what you want that makes you happy see if they will give it to you.
  6. sviato macrumors 68020


    Oct 27, 2010
    HR 9038 A
    So you should be rewarded because a mistake is being fixed? this is unbelievable :rolleyes:
  7. mattcube64, Jun 16, 2013
    Last edited: Jun 16, 2013

    mattcube64 thread starter macrumors 65816


    May 21, 2006
    No, I'm asking to be compensated because they wasted my time. 9 hours - pretty much my entire Sunday - is a lot of time to sit in an Apple store and twiddle your thumbs; especially when a solution wasn't even found ;p And for what it's worth - I was offered something - I didn't ask.

    Yeah, I've never been to an Apple Store outside the US. They admitted it was a pretty massive screw-up.
  8. Mrbobb macrumors 601

    Aug 27, 2012
    Am not reading your manifesto but assuming, by carelessness and incompetence was Apple's, u can ask for a gift card or store credit, would be acceptable behavior. No guarantee they will honor.
  9. eyoungren, Jun 16, 2013
    Last edited: Jun 16, 2013

    eyoungren macrumors Core


    Aug 31, 2011
    ten-zero-eleven-zero-zero by zero-two
    The way I read it, the OP didn't ask for compensation, but compensation was offered by a manager. I'd agree with you if it was the other way around.

    That's just decent service though, whether it's Apple or not. Company X made a mistake, Company X is fixing the mistake, but in the interest of good customer service, Company X is also offering the customer something as compensation because it was Company X's mistake that is inconveniencing the customer.
  10. barkomatic macrumors 68040

    Aug 8, 2008
    Um, getting a carrier locked Canadian iPhone from a U.S. store which inconveniences the OP and takes hours of his time is a pretty big mistake. Besides, Apple offered to give home something, so I'm not sure what justifies your righteous indignation.
  11. ogremoustro macrumors 6502a


    Aug 17, 2011
    Los Angeles, CA
    You should accept one of the offered compensations but you shouldnt ask for a specific item.
  12. pingjintao macrumors newbie

    Mar 3, 2013
    Call Larry Parker and hit them with a Class Action -
  13. ggmissmolly macrumors regular

    Sep 20, 2011
    Lexington, KY
    obviously there are people who just dream this stuff up. How about one free day in the asylum?
  14. NewbieCanada macrumors 68030

    Oct 9, 2007
    All-expenses paid 2-week trip to the Canadian destination of your choice. ;)
  15. darster Suspended

    Aug 25, 2011
    Dont ask for a fitbit. Ask for a refurb ipod.
  16. maxosx macrumors 68020

    Dec 13, 2012
    Southern California
    No one wasted your time.

    Buying any consumer product brings risks. If ones not willing to take those risks the solution is straightforward. Don't make the purchase. It's as simple as that.

    I'd venture a guess that if the specific risk factor was calculated based on total sales volume of said product, as compared to the smartphone sector average, ones chances are the best, or least risky when doing business with Apple.

    Finally I'd kindly remind you this is a mass produced product. A fact that's true of all smartphones, save for the customs hand made for the big money crowd.
  17. paulbennett95 macrumors 6502a


    Aug 30, 2012
    Long Island, NY
    I don't think they're just going to say "Okay whaddaya want sonny?"
    I'm sure they'll give you some options on what you can take as compensation.
    If they DO let you just pick something, I wouldn't ask for anything more than $150, nor expect anything more than $100.
  18. danahn17 macrumors 6502

    Dec 3, 2009
    Yikes. I'd be pretty upset too if I was stuck there for 8 hours (plus the $800 hold).

    It never hurts to ask. And if you feel like they are low-balling you, then negotiate with them and higher-ups if need be (nicely of course).

    I don't know about you, but if I'm buying a product from Apple, I expect it to work. And as a US citizen, I expect my phone to work with US providers.
  19. PNutts macrumors 601


    Jul 24, 2008
    Pacific Northwest, US
    Before the Manager offers you anything, tell him "Give me two and one is yours." If he glances around looking for a two-wheeler... Jackpot! :D
  20. Mrbobb macrumors 601

    Aug 27, 2012
    Everybody ask that.

    I want a day tour of the secret design department at Apple HQ, promising and hope to die I won't tell anyone what I see. :D
  21. digitalfx macrumors 6502a


    Jul 18, 2007
    at the very least you should get a autographed Steve Jobs Biography for your troubles.
  22. PLin macrumors 6502

    Oct 9, 2003
    I had a similar problem a few years ago. Before the unlocked iPhones were available in the US, I drove to Toronto to buy one since I needed an unlocked one for international travel even though I use AT&T in the US.

    A few months later, my proximity sensor wasn't working very well, and I was told by a US store that if I were to have it replaced, I would get an AT&T locked phone. I ended up driving all the way back to Toronto to get it replaced, but it wouldn't activate using my AT&T SIM card, because it was locked to a Canadian carrier. The Genius assured me that it was just taking a while for the serial number to be processed on Apple's servers and that everything should be fine by the time I got home.

    When I got home, I still couldn't get it to work with my AT&T SIM card. That's when I realized that the serial number of my iPhone didn't match the number on my repair paperwork. I called the store, and they admitted that they must have given me a different phone, but the unlocked one I was supposed to receive was nowhere to be found.

    AppleCare couldn't help me, so I had no working phone for 3 days. The store that made the mistake said I had to drive all the way back to get it unlocked. When I got there, they still couldn't unlock it. The manager finally stepped in and unwrapped a brand new unlocked iPhone and even gave me a receipt that looked like I paid $800 in cash for it even though there was no money exchanged. That was the only way they could resolve the issue. The manager then said I could choose an iPhone case for free.

    The free case was obviously nowhere close to the wasted gas and time, but what can you do... just bad luck I guess.
  23. Worf macrumors regular

    Jun 23, 2010
    You deserve at least a free head pat or noogie from Tim Cook.
  24. Applejuiced macrumors Westmere


    Apr 16, 2008
    At the iPhone hacks section.
  25. maflynn, Jun 17, 2013
    Last edited: Jun 17, 2013

    maflynn Moderator


    Staff Member

    May 3, 2009
    So you feel the need to be paid for being polite - shouldn't people be polite in the first place. :confused:

    What's with this entitlement mentality people have now. Apple solved the problem, you have a new phone, why are you trying to get something? So what if you had to spend 9 hours over a course of a week to resolve something - that's life.

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