Are aliens more intelligent than humans?


mudslag

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First off naturalnews is a conspiracy wackjob site. Second, is alien life possible and even probable? Yes but until we can say with 100% certainty that it exists, it's asinine to claim that they exist without actual evidence to support such a claim. It's one thing to say that based on a number of factors that life exists on probability alone, it's another to say it's stupid to deny that existence when we lack actual evidence. As for any potential alien life being more intelligent, that too would be asinine to claim. Non-intelligent life has existed on this planet far longer than intelligent life has.

If you want to have an honest and open discussion about the potential for alien life and all that comes with it, go for it, just lose the nonsense garbage conspiracy side of it first.
 

JagdTiger

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First off naturalnews is a conspiracy wackjob site. Second, is alien life possible and even probable? Yes but until we can say with 100% certainty that it exists, it's asinine to claim that they exist without actual evidence to support such a claim. It's one thing to say that based on a number of factors that life exists on probability alone, it's another to say it's stupid to deny that existence when we lack actual evidence. As for any potential alien life being more intelligent, that too would be asinine to claim. Non-intelligent life has existed on this planet far longer than intelligent life has.

If you want to have an honest and open discussion about the potential for alien life and all that comes with it, go for it, just lose the nonsense garbage conspiracy side of it first.
The nasa scientist Warner Von Braun had this to say.

 

retta283

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Yeah I don't trust anything from naturalnews. Bunch of crap from my opinion.

We can't be certain of the intelligence of something we don't know exists...
 
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retta283

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Source aside with an universe so big there is no way we are the only “intelligent” inhabited planet , and “intelligent” here is questionable due to mass stupidity we engage in
It's not that I don't believe that we the only planet with intelligent life, it's just that I believe it to be a waste of time to speculate the intelligence of these species when we don't know anything about them.
 

RichardMZhlubb

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Well apparently aliens are smarter than Homosapiens and humans should not deny they do exist.

Scientific American admits: Extraterrestrials likely to be far more intelligent than humans… and we’re stupid to deny their existence

https://www.naturalnews.com/2019-07-07-scientific-american-admits-extraterrestrials-likely-to-be-far-more-intelligent-than-humans.html
If, in fact, this is based on something in Scientific American, why not link to it directly instead of your garbage conspiracy site?
 

jkcerda

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It's not that I don't believe that we the only planet with intelligent life, it's just that I believe it to be a waste of time to speculate the intelligence of these species when we don't know anything about them.
There have been UFO sightings and Cheeto Hitler wanting a space force leads to me believe the aliens are indeed smash enough to ovoid our stupidity.
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I just watched Kendal Jenner giving pointers about eyelashes on Twitch, so I'm sure the answer is yes.
The endless glorification of stupidity is probably why the aliens won’t visit us :(
 
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tranceking26

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Would any other life forms out there want anything to do with mankind and its history of wars and all the modern day stupidity we witness?

I think I'd stay hidden myself.
 
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Solomani

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There have been UFO sightings and Cheeto Hitler wanting a space force leads to me believe the aliens are indeed smash enough to ovoid our stupidity.
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The endless glorification of stupidity is probably why the aliens won’t visit us :(

The aliens are free to join our social media worship. Access is typically free.

I really can't say more than that…. I gotta go, I have some Bath Water to buy before they sell out!

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jerwin

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Some of these issues are covered in Richard Panek's The Four Percent Universe, Dark Matter, Dark Energy and the race to Discover the Rest of Reality.

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Of course, the difference between the astronomical community and Mike Adams is that Mike Adams makes money peddling unsubstantiated woo, and the astronomers are dependent on grant money. Those who write the checks have determined that the best use of telescope time includes the philosophically unsatisfying task of determining that w is pretty darn close to -1, and not on the remote possibility of alien life.

(If I've misunderstood Panek, please chime in)
 

Solomani

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Some of these issues are covered in Richard Panek's The Four Percent Universe, Dark Matter, Dark Energy and the race to Discover the Rest of Reality.

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Of course, the difference between the astronomical community and Mike Adams is that Mike Adams makes money peddling unsubstantiated woo, and the astronomers are dependent on grant money. Those who write the checks have determined that the best use of telescope time includes the philosophically unsatisfying task of determining that w is pretty darn close to -1, and not on the remote possibility of alien life.

(If I've misunderstood Panek, please chime in)
Awesome! Now I finally know the airspeed velocity of an unladen swallow!


 
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TheFluffyDuck

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Most humans are not as smart as we think we are. We live in a world very few of us could replicate. Honestly if I put you in the forest with nothing more than a hatchet and some string, when can I expect an email? Humans are not that smart, we live off the inventions created from people who are one in a million or billion. Lucky for us, we have recorded history so we don't have to each do something from scratch.

Look in 400 years there will be somebody on a starship to Pluto who is taking homeopathic medicine. Creationists today believe the world is 6000 years old, but will gladly fill their car up with petrol that has taken tens to hudrends of millions of years to form. So there will be dumb ass aliens for the same reasons in that, like us will have probably constructed an environment that insulates themselves from the consequences of existence or necessity. In other words a world safe for idiots (which ours mostly is today). Survival for us today is not running from lions, but paying the bills on time, if you cant do that, even the welfare state will do it for you.

Also the distances involved between stars is mind numbingly vast, which means the energy to travel that distance in any reasonable life time will NEVER be as mundane as flying between continents, you cant shortcut physics, a price will need to be paid. They're reasoning to justify the expenditure of time, and energy to do so would need to be of immense civilisational importance. Sadly, I don't think a few anal probes of texans would be high on their civilisational imperative.

Escaping extinction, lack of resources, would be the only reasonable reason they would come find us. Like us they were probably the top predator on their planet, as hunters have big brains and socialisation in other words they out competed everything else on their planet. We are not going to encounter a heard of friendly vegan space cows. Any space faring aliens are going to be predators who evolved from things that like to eat other things.

Aliens are going to be of average intelligence for the most part. If we do encounter them, it's going to be for all the wrong reasons, and we are totally F in the A....not probed.
 

Bug-Creator

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The logic error is simple. OP projected himself on the whole human race and came to the only possible conclusion:p

Billions of stars in a galaxy, billions of galaxies in the universe, maybe billions of universes in the multiverse....

So yeah pretty unbelievable that earth is the only place infected with life.

Most alien life will be primitive 1 cell species (just like on earth).

No matter how smart aliens might be, they won't be able to defy physics so unless our physic is somehow wrong real contact will never be established.
 

LIVEFRMNYC

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What is intelligent? Are we just speaking about problem solving and critical thinking?

I consider emotions and natural instincts a part of intelligence as well. You have humans that are seriously booksmart, but can barely function of a social level.

What about goals and desires? An alien species could be so much smarter than us, but never advanced their own intelligence for millions of years, cause the lack of desire they have.

And as humans, no matter how intelligent any given individual is, there is always a crippling weakness, that even an idiot can overcome. Intelligent aliens could be similar.