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MachCrit

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If so, I don't see it using the new iOS11 app store application. It would be nice to know if you are buying a pig in a poke.

Apple will leave non compliant apps on the store since they work with older devices correct? Shouldn't they be identified somehow?

Am I missing something obvious?
 

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You can still follow an external link to an app in the store / get to an old app through your purchase history. In those instances it shows a banner that says it's not compatible with iOS 11 at the top of the app's page.
 
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I am more concerned with Apple continuing to sell apps that wont' be compatible with iOS 11. Why not identify them somehow, which will keep customers from making a short-lived investment (and might prompt some devs to update their apps)?

Like many here, I've been contacting devs to see if they plan to update their apps. Few responses, and too many say "no".

These are mostly vertical market apps.
 
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I am more concerned with Apple continuing to sell apps that wont' be compatible with iOS 11. Why not identify them somehow, which will keep customers from making a short-lived investment (and might prompt some devs to update their apps)?

Like many here, I've been contacting devs to see if they plan to update their apps. Few responses, and too many say "no".

These are mostly vertical market apps.

Why would Apple cut the legs out of under their app developers by not allowing them to sell apps that run under the latest version of iOS, 10.X.X? iOS 11 is not on the market yet. It is still being developed. The apps store currently tells you if the app requires a certain version of iOS to run; i.e. "requires iOS 9 or later".

If a developer says they are not going to update their apps, find another app to buy. Why give your money to someone who tells you they won't support their own product?

Just saying!
 
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Why would Apple cut the legs out of under their app developers by not allowing them to sell apps that run under the latest version of iOS, 10.X.X? iOS 11 is not on the market yet. It is still being developed. The apps store currently tells you if the app requires a certain version of iOS to run; i.e. "requires iOS 9 or later".

If a developer says they are not going to update their apps, find another app to buy. Why give your money to someone who tells you they won't support their own product?

Just saying!

Customers won't know to "buy another app" as you indicate.

Shortly people will upgrade to iOS 11. When they do, how will they know an app is only 32bit, and won't run under iOS 11, which won't currently load 32 bit apps? The app store does not indicate that an app is not compatible with iOS 11.

Devs that have no intention of updating abandoned apps and aren't paying attention, likely won't update their requirements as displayed on the app store, so will Apple indicate that an app is 32bit and won't work somehow? For thousands of apps that are still 32bit?

Kind of sucks when you think about it.
 
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I agree that the decent thing to do would be to notify users in advance. However, given that it is Apple’s store and they profit from sales directly, I suspect they aren’t going to do that. Caveat emptor, as it is said.
 
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I agree that the decent thing to do would be to notify users in advance. However, given that it is Apple’s store and they profit from sales directly, I suspect they aren’t going to do that. Caveat emptor, as it is said.

We will just have to go through a few months of uncertainty. I figure if a dev hasn't updated by the time iOS 11 goes public, then they never will.

Emailed a bunch of niche market devs about apps that don't work (travel, aviation) and most are waiting to update. All it did was prompt me to find other working apps for some of them. Would be very nice if the app store mentioned iOS 11 compatibility.

Maybe they will, in due course.
 
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MEJHarrison

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I think you're making an assumption about what Apple will or will not do in 2-3 months. It's still in beta. That means things are still changing. How do you know they haven't already thought about this and have a solution? Maybe you should hold off on your judgements until we see how Apple plans to handle things when the OS is finally released.
 
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Well, it really depends on how old the App is. Apps in the store that have been built/submitted in the last year or two will normally already support 64bit. Developers have been able to submit them for a long time now. It's only much older Apps that haven't been updated that may not include 64bit support.
 
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MachCrit

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I think you're making an assumption about what Apple will or will not do in 2-3 months. It's still in beta. That means things are still changing. How do you know they haven't already thought about this and have a solution? Maybe you should hold off on your judgements until we see how Apple plans to handle things when the OS is finally released.

Hold off on judgements? What judgements? Oh, I forget, we live in a new world where everything offends everybody.

Apple sent out another notice yesterday, reminding developers to update their apps.

My guess is that the strategy is to get devs to update everything, and forget about the morass of trying to get vendors to change every single app description in the store.
 
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MEJHarrison

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Hold off on judgements? What judgements? Oh, I forget, we live in a new world where everything offends everybody.

Sure, I'm highly offended by your confusion. I'm so happy you were able to zero into the true meaning of my message and extract that little nugget. :rolleyes:
 
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