I've just been looking through some of the post about the new stuff at the Expo and most of it concerns the PowerMac and the prospect of new processors etc. I have a humble iMac DV with q 400Mhz G3 processor and 384Mb of memory. It is nearly three years old. And it whips most of my friends PC's asses, still. Ok, OS X is a bit slow, and Photoshop 7 is not what I call a powerhorse on it, but it still does it all. When poeple are moaning about PC's doing this and that they forget that most people do not buy the top of the range PC Yes, I know that the top end PowerMac is pricy, but we forget that with a PowerMac you are not just buying a computer or a processor with a big number attached to it. 1: You are buying a piece of equipment that has a far higher build quality than any other computer make- the only ones I can think of that come close are the Sony range- its also noticeable that Sony dont always use the fastest processors in their range. 2: The OS is far better and has obvously taken up a lot of Apple's development time lately- and it keeps on getting noticablly better- if it had stayed the same as Windows then I would have been stuck with OS9 until I could afford a new iMac, which I cant, probably for another year or two. Jaguar will hopefully mean I can do this. 3: Image: buying a Mac says something about you- I am not following a crowd- I like to stand out etc. How many times have you walked into a room and heard people say "Cool Dell, man!" 4: They are fast- Most of the processor power is not used, even in my 400Mhz G3. Photoshop (and other programms similar) use it the most, but even then it is only really when filters are being used etc- and each up-grade must only shave milliseconds of the time- What is the hurry???-"Oh, thanks to my new 1.4Ghz PowerMac i have a spare 3.2 seconds today!" You would waste more than that re-booting a PC. 5: However, they could knock the prices down a bit- and include a basic monitor in the price- thats what every PC person says when they see the powermac- oh, it's that price and is hasn't got a monitor- it would be more honest to include the price of the bottom of the range one-just to give less of a shock! It is the price, not the processor that everyone should be moaning about to Apple. Just some thoughts!