Are you more excited for the iPhone 6S than the iPhone 6 before it came out?

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  1. DBZmusicboy01 macrumors 6502a

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    I am... Not very sure but I guess it's because we all were expecting the 6 to have a bigger screen but the update wasn't that big at all.
    Almost the same camera as the 5S
    1GB Ram
    16GB storage..

    But for the 6S it's looking to be the biggest internal jump ever..
    Force touch will be a big feature
    12MP camera will be amazing.
    2GB ram...32GB storage
    Tri/Quad core processor
    Better front facing camera..
    And maybe even AMOLED for the display because of the force touch.

    What a huge update for an S update. I mean I am super excited. The iPhone 7 will be big too but I honestly don't see anything special about it except maybe dual camera and solar charging and upgraded display.
    But the jump from the 6 to 6S will be crazy..as long as Apple does not disappoint us.
     
  2. Flow39 macrumors 68000

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    I was more excited for the 6 than the 6s because I was upgrading from a "feature phone" last year (got my first job and was able to save up enough to finally get out of the dumb phone territory haha). I'm still really excited for the 6s, but the 6 definitely was more exciting for me.
     
  3. DynamicSausage macrumors 6502

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    I actually find that people are too quick to jump up in excitement for the number models simply because they have a new design whereas many people will say "it's just the same for the S models.

    Let's not forget that it was the 5S that brought us 64bit processing and Touch ID, both huge leaps for iPhone in my opinion. The 4S brought us Siri which is debatably a huge jump and the 6S is (hopefully) going to bring Force Touch along with RAM and big processor improvements. Also worth noting that it's always the S models that iron out the little design flaws like the iPhone 4's signal dropping and the 6's bending.
     
  4. xaqt93 macrumors 6502

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    I'm just excited for the 6S to see what force touch will bring. I'm sure it's going to bring something more exciting then the ideas that I have come up with. I am also hoping for a 12 mega pixel camera. I currently have the iPhone 6, and because of my job, I get to upgrade every year for a very reasonable price, so I will be Upgrading no matter what.
     
  5. Derived macrumors regular

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    People that dismiss the S models are, at best, very silly. The S models are always the bigger jumps in terms of power. The 6 was a huge step, no doubt. But the 6S is going to be an amazing phone. As far as "not seeing anything special for the 7"...Lol. You have no idea what the 7 will be...and neither do I, or anyone else. I'm sure it will be great as well.
     
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    You do not need an amoled screen for Force Touch. It's not even technically part of a screen. Force Touch is just sensors behind/underneath that senses how hard you press. MacBook and MacBook Pro trackpads surely aren't amoled screens.

    But I agree with you that the 6s will be pretty good jump. "S" model iPhones usually are, and that's when most the hardware get the big upgrades and some new tech. Non "S" models get the redesigns and new screens.

    So far the 5 to 5s was the biggest increase yet and I think the 6s will be a bigger increase from the 6 than the 5s was to the 5.
     
  7. Tthomas612 macrumors 65816

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    I have to agree with this. The 5 to the 5s was huge. A lot bigger then the 4 to the 4s and the 3G to the 3GS.. However I do believe the 6 to the 6s will be even bigger. I'm super excited for the iPhone 6s. However the iPhone 6 brought bigger screens which is something the iPhone 6s will not be doing.
     
  8. Newtons Apple macrumors P6

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    Looking forward to the new iPhone but it would be hard to have this beat the excitement of Apple new 6 and 6+ because they finally had a proper screen size. Just hope apple gets the OS right!
     
  9. nj-morris macrumors 68000

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    I'm fearing that the jump to 12MP might not be amazing. They need to do something else to make up, as the pixels will probably be smaller. For example, the iPad Air 2 got a bump to 8MP, and that thing is really thin, so it had tiny pixels, and it still had a mere ƒ/2.4 aperture. So if they stay at ƒ/2.2 with the 6S, I expect the camera to flop. I expect at least ƒ/2.0, which should make up for the smaller pixels. Maybe they'll go the extra mile and put an ƒ/1.8 aperture in there.
    AMOLED? One can dream for such a thing in an S upgrade. I really hope it comes with the 'iPhone 7' though. I LOVE the AMOLED on the Galaxy S6, but I don't think Sammy does enough with the software to take advantage of it. And that's what :apple: excels at.
     
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    This is the first iPhone in all these years that I feel nothing for
     
  11. silverblack macrumors 68030

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    An update in spec is only exciting when the current model is limiting. I don't in anyway find my 6+ limiting in performance. Of course, more is always better when it comes to specs. But the upgrade isn't needed to solve any problems. Yes, I couldn't care less when the webpages reload after I leave Safari and go back to them. I want them to anyway.
     
  12. iTom17 macrumors 6502a

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    I didn't expect it to happen, but I'm actually indeed more excited about the iPhone 6s than I was about the iPhone 6. And that's because of that internal jump. From what I've read it seems like the iPhone 6s is going to have the biggest internal upgrade. A higher clock speed, another processing core, more and faster RAM, camera upgrade (and not just with stuff like Focus Pixels, but an actual camera system upgrade), Force Touch and 7000 Series aluminum.

    I'm pretty darn excited about this new iPhone, even if it comes with not all of these changes. And I look really forward to the announcement of it. :)
     
  13. C DM macrumors Westmere

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    But we didn't really know we were going to get what we got until Apple announced it, so at this point in the "process" we were still suspecting many similar things that we are suspecting about the 6s line, meaning that we should be (or basically should have been) at least similarly excited.
     
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    From a standpoint of real world performance it's going to be awhile before we know what that's like.

    But I do give Apple a lot of credit for programming so many people to believe in their hype. Apple hasn't even said one word yet, instead their worshipers are doing it for them. Excitement appears out of thin air, people's imaginations are running wild convinced that this sight unseen product will be the companies best.

    Such an amazing lasting impression they've left on so many.
     
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    i think iphone 7 next yrs is more exited than S ,,,,"
     
  16. mpavilion macrumors 6502a

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    When people speculate that an AMOLED screen is needed for Force Touch, due to some flexibility that LCDs don't have (which may or may not be true, I have no clue), they're not saying that Force Touch ONLY works on a screen. I'm sure they know about the trackpads. They're talking about Force Touch compatibility with different screen types, when implemented on a screen. (Sorry, not picking you on you; I've just seen this same response several times on here, and the miscommunication irks me.)
     
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    Most of the time when people mention Force Touch and AMOLED they are usually claiming the AMOLED is needed (even the OP said "AMOLED for the display because of Force Touch.") Which is false.

    I mention the trackpads because it proves you don't need anything specific about a screen for it to function. Trackpads are just glass and touch sensors. Obviously not AMOLED.

    Who says the screen needs to be flexible though? All that happens is the sensors behind the screen/trackpad feel how hard you are pushing down. Once it reaches a certain level of pressure it activates the "force press" function of Force Touch. It doesn't need to flex and feel where you where pressing. That's done already by the touch sensors in the screen/trackpad that are already there.
     
  18. mpavilion, Aug 19, 2015
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    I don't know how the tech works. But it does not seem intuitive to me that just because it works on a trackpad, it must work the same way on a screen; and must also work equally well on any type of screen.

    Btw - I'll let the OP speak for himself, but I'm pretty sure that when he said "because of Force Touch," he was referring to the longstanding rumor here that FT requires an AMOLED screen... again, *when implemented on a screen*. No one ever said "it won't work on a trackpad, because a trackpad isn't AMOLED."
     
  19. lagwagon Suspended

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    The tech is not part of a screen. It's independent tech to just work with a screen for more ways to interact with a screen. You could put Force Touch behind anything really. It's just pressure sensors and once a certain threshold is met, it triggers whatever function is tied to what happens when you press hard enough.

    The rumours of FT "requiring" AMOLED all mostly come from the Apple Watch, because it has AMOLED and was the first to introduce FT, so people assume the two are tied together. AMOLED on the watch was to reduce battery drain (the reason why the watchOS UI is mostly black) and not because of FT.

    I'm not saying no one ever said it wouldn't work on a trackpad. Again you're missing the point of trackpads being brought up. It's proof FT is not dependent on any screen type. FT is its own thing.
     
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    yeah I'm extremely pumped for the ram upgrade. the other stuff is just bonus but the 6 should've had 2gb
     
  21. GrumpyMom macrumors 603

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    I'm excited to see if there's a new color like pink or rose gold. If there's not a bump up to 2GB Ram for both models I will be grumpy. I am a bit apprehensive about the rumor that Apple gave the 6s a lower capacity battery than it currently has.

    I won't be buying early this time. I'm going to wait for reports and tear downs and reviews to come out because I want to downsize from a Plus to a regular sized iPhone, but not if the latter is needlessly and mercilessly underspecced compared to the larger model.
     
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    Unless an actual engineer comes in here and tells us what's what, I don't think either one of us knuckleheads is going to convince the other. I don't get how the fact FT works on a trackpad is "proof FT is not dependent on any screen type," or that "you could put it behind anything really." Could I put it in a cathode TV screen from the 1950s? Could I put it in the screen on my alarm clock? Could I put it in a car seat, so it can sense pressure from my back? Could I put it in an umbrella handle? Could I put it in a sandwich?

    It works in a trackpad which is .05mm thick (or whatever). Would it work in a trackpad that's 5 inches thick? Five feet thick? I'm being silly, but the point is that surely there are tolerances.

    Where do the FT sensors go when they go "behind" an LCD screen? Behind the backlight? Between the backlight and one of the many layers? Does the backlight in any way complicate the ability to sense which exact part of the glass (many layers up) is being pressed, and hard? How does it work on the watch screen? Without knowing all this, I can't dismiss out of the hand the rumor (quite possibly created by knuckleheads like us) that the backlight-free architecture of an AMOLED screen makes it conducive to working with added pressure sensors, in a way that an LCD screen isn't.
     
  23. JohnApples macrumors 65816

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    I'm typically more excited for the number models. Not necessarily because it's an "all-new design", but because I'm on a 2-year upgrade cycle so I don't upgrade during the S models.

    Although the 5S was pretty exciting to me, definitely the most exciting S reveal in my opinion. The only reveal that was even more exhilarating for me was the 5, because that was my first true iPhone!
     
  24. lagwagon, Aug 19, 2015
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    Of course there would be tolerances on how thick something can be for it to work. It has to be thin enough to detect something being pushed down on it.

    It would go behind the backlight. If you look at the side by side of the 6 and 6s screen (see image taken from the front page article that was posted a while back on this site.) you can see some differences. The 6s back of the screen has hundreds of little dots all over and the 6 doesn't. (Possible film with sensors?) and at the top of the orange (tape?) near the ribbons there is a whole new chip on the 6s where on the 6 it's just black and nothing there.

    To answer your question of "does the backlight in anyway complicate which part of the glass is being pressed, and hard?" It's doesn't have to. It just needs to sense X amount of pressure anywhere down from the top glass. The touch sensors in the screen that already know where you are touching handles the "where" FT handles the "how hard"

    Btw a Force Touch sandwich would be sweet. Get notifications with every bite :p

    *second image is of the trackpad construction. Top glass and sensors underneath.*
     

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  25. Sumter macrumors regular

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    I am pretty satisfied with my 6 Plus, so I'm not anticipating the next release as excitedly as I anticipated the screen size jump in 6 and 6 Plus last year.

    I'm actually more interested in iPhone 7 (or whatever it will be called in 2016) because of the design change that's most likely to happen, and it will come with all the changes made in 6s (if rumors are true), and a little more. iOS 10 (or, as some people prefer to think it will be named, iOS X) will probably be a huge update and it will come with 2016 iPhone... So many things to look forward to!
     

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