Arizona GOP bill lets employers inquire about your sex life, but only for women

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  1. likemyorbs macrumors 68000

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    As if the presidential election of 2012 wasn't already a sealed deal for Obama, the conservatives are still out in full force making sure females don't vote for them. The newest battlefield in the GOP war against women is in the beautiful state of Arizona, where a senate committee is sponsoring a bill that would allow employers to ask why you're on the pill, whether it's for sexual or non-sexual medical reasons. The really sad part is this bill was created by a woman. Well, so much for the party of "keeping the gub'ment outta our lives".

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    I guess they figured since they're losing the war on gay rights and attacking blacks isn't politically correct anymore, they decided to try and recycle the scapegoating of women.
     
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    Sounds fair.
     
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    So if hiring colored folk is against an employer's religion, should they be allowed to break federal law?
     
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    That is absolutely insane. It just goes to show how many lawmakers are out of touch with the American public.

    People don't want the government's prying eyes in their bedrooms and the USSC has repeatedly affirmed this.
     
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    Colored folk?
     
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    I am going to put forward a couple of arguments (The "I" in them is not me). Tell me if they're fair.

    • Pregnancy is a lifestyle choice, not a medical condition. As an employer I feel strongly that I shouldn't have to pay for medical treatment for a self-inflicted condition.
    • I am a Jehovah's Witnesses. I feel strongly that the Bible forbids ingesting human blood, so it forbids blood transfusions. As an employer I reserve the right to refuse to pay for medical insurance that includes the possibility of blood transfusions for my employees.
     
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    “I believe we live in America. We don’t live in the Soviet Union,” Lesko said. “So, government should not be telling the organizations or mom and pop employers to do something against their moral beliefs.”

    You just can't make this stuff up!

    Irony much?
     
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    That's how these people think though. It's unreal.
     
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    For anyone who missed the above referenced irony, the Soviet Union dissolved on December 26, 1991.

    My underscore.

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    Problem is that it only fair in theory. Realty has shown time and time again companies will use this as an excuse to cut off paying any insurance and in turn save money while screwing the employees.

    Hell it not even fair in theory because it allows one to push their beliefs onto another person. That is far from fair and goes against what this country is built on.
     
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    It's the Arizona legislature, at this point they're willing to gin up any kind of bill that fits into current conservative ideology. Contraceptives are bad, so the AZ Leg is ready to start screwing around with the medical decisions of individuals while protecting the psuedo-morality of employers. Then they call it freedom.

    It's entirely unsurprising to me that Lesko pushed for this, she's pandering to a staunchly conservative base in Maricopa.
     
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    Insane. There is an assault against women's rights going on and that's not hyperbole.
     
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    Where are the libertarians? Are you not outraged at this infringement on a persons liberty?
     
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    Just loggin in for a few minutes to get my dose of republiweird. I wasn't let down.
     
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    Just using some old fashioned 60's terminology when i talk about old fashioned and outdated people.

    No, they're only outraged when democrats infringe on their liberties.
     
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    Please. Please somebody get rid of religion. Wake these people up.
     
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    Most of the people who I know who claim to be libertarians support state rights, so my guess is that they aren't complaining because it's coming from a state legislature, not Congress, and there aren't many actual libertarians who are against all government interference...
     
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    Exactly this.

    Viewing this from across the Pond, I am daily more unnerved by the sheer insanity of the world view of these people. They are deranged. And their hatred of women, blacks, gays, and anyone who - by definition - differs from the ideal white heterosexual male paterfamilias ideal, basically, their hatred of those who decline to be put back into the segmented and segregated and concealed social boxes of their idealised 1950s universe, seems to know no bounds. Deeply disturbing.
     
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    It is quite disturbing, but what you're seeing is desperate attempts to identify with some extremist sect of the voting base in hopes of winning the 2012 elections. Unfortunately for them, they're alienating themselves from most Americans. Personally, i've never met anyone in real life who feels this way, i just read about them on the internet. Might have something to do with the fact that i live in NJ and these types of views don't fly here.
     
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    What about women?

    Can fundamentalist Muslims choose not to hire women?

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    They are both medical conditions.

    If you wanted to boil it down to a general rule ... your personal philosophy should not infringe my right to access medical care.
     
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    I'm glad you agree with me - I was putting those ridiculous arguments forward to show that this round of republican attacks on women's health issues has nothing to do with freedom of speech and conscience. (I am not a Jehovah's Witness, and I'm glad pregnancy is covered under our health insurance, otherwise my wife and I would have been out a lot of money when our kids were born.)
     
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    Anyone know how much a months supply costs?

    Never mind. My wife says we pay a $20 copayment

    If insurance didn't cover it or no insurance at all, it would cost $40 at the pharmacy we use and less than $20 at Walmart
     
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    For anyone with half a lick of sense it illustrates why the GOP should be no where near elected office... What does it take to convince the idiots who vote them, that they are idiots?
     

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