Arizona law states: Annoy someone on the internet and go to Jail!

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  1. barkomatic macrumors 68040

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    Arizona does it again. This time, a very broadly worded piece of legislation, House Bill 2549, basically makes it illegal to "annoy or offend" someone on the internet or use "obscene, lewd or profane" language.

    The law was intended to stop bullying, but in so doing pretty much ends free speech once and for all. If someone reads a post here on Macrumors in Arizona that offends or annoys someone there--the original poster could serve prison time.

    I can't imagine this law will stand long, just shocked at how much some legislators want to completely shut down free speech in order to satisfy the current national outrage over bullying.

    http://gizmodo.com/5898585/itll-soon-be-illegal-to-troll-in-arizona?tag=censorship

    I thought I'd post this before the law is signed, making the political discussion forum here essentially illegal. What do you think?
     
  2. Rodimus Prime macrumors G4

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    If they would drop the annoy/offend part it would be a good law that is long long over due.
     
  3. barkomatic thread starter macrumors 68040

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    Even the rest of it is subjective. That's the problem with laws that try to regulate speech.
     
  4. leekohler macrumors G5

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    WTF? So basically you could not use the internet anymore without going to jail. This is ridiculous.
     
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    Are you sure that somebody didn't get their days mixed up and think it's still April 1st? I know Arizona is crazy, but are they really that crazy?
     
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    Why? Because this is the first time their government has done something idiotic? Seems to be a pattern.
     
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    Arizona forum members will be required to use a red letter "A" avatar so we know who is worth reporting.
     
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    Wirelessly posted

    Stuff like this is why I hate that state, you have a nutcase legislator and courput enough cops to enforce their laws.
     
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    Just seems slightly more idiotic than most of what they do, although I wouldn't put it past them.
     
  12. CalBoy macrumors 604

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    The entire law is an exercise in censorship. There's no place for that in a free society.
     
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    You mean they're gonna make bullying illegal?? :eek:
     
  14. Rodimus Prime macrumors G4

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    Free speech does not mean you are allowed to threaten or insult another person.
    Aka bullying should be made against the law and have some massive punishment. At hate crime leave in my book.
     
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    You have me curious. How would you define bullying for such a law? I'm not setting you up for anything. Just curious how, in a sentence or two, you would legally describe/define bullying.
     
  16. barkomatic thread starter macrumors 68040

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    The law does not define any of the terms it uses at all, therefore they are subject to the interpretation of anyone. What does "terrify", "intimidate", or "harass" mean when its a written word on a public internet forum?

    If someone on a forum makes a joke about people with big noses, and someone who thinks their nose is big reads it and cries, then that person could claim harassment or intimidation and have the poster jailed. Does that sound like a rational approach to the problem of bullying?
     
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    There is a reason the GOP candidates for President won't be spending a lot of money in Arizona. It's because the state is full of people who think like this.

    Why? Does warm weather make you stupid? Are senile people more likely to vote Republican? Is there a reason people who subsist on Social Security and Medicare/Medicaid support a party that wants them to live a life of meager subsistence far worse than they do now?

    (edit) Or more likely, are white people that scared of brown people?
     
  18. Rodimus Prime macrumors G4

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    good question. We have had enough threads on bullying and harrassing over the internet that have pushed people to sucuided. Laws to protect those who are being bullied are LONG LONG over due. It should be pushed to much stiffer punishment. The current laws need some massive rewriting to address the internet side of things.

    Yes it may be poorly worded but stuff like this is long long over due.
     
  19. CalBoy macrumors 604

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    Well no, you are allowed to insult others. In fact, you're even allowed to threaten someone if the threat is a perfectly legal action.

    What isn't allowed is an illegal threat. So, "I'm going to shoot you if you don't do X" is clearly not protected by free speech because you're threatening a crime. However, "I'm going to pull my public support unless you do X" is perfectly protected.
     
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    Guess anyone from Arizona should avoid PRSI for now on.
     
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    Short answer yes. Long answer, I'm not about other state legislatures, but Ariz. has a habit of introducing utterly vague legislation and then narrowing down the language through the committee process.

    The current reading doesn't define stalking, which the rest of the idea hangs on, so at the very least, they'll have to define this within the statute.

    And, while Arizona's legislation is endlessly entertaining, keep in mind that most of these proposals fail to pass through to the governor.
     
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    A Scarlet Letter? How quaint. :p
     
  23. GoCubsGo macrumors Nehalem

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    Well I'd be ****ed. I annoy people all of the time. It's kind of my job.
     
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    An avocation we both share. ;)
     
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    At least it was Arizona. If it was Florida, you'd be able to shoot the offender.
     

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