Arizona Lawmaker Wants Mandatory Church Attendance on Sundays

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    http://www.nydailynews.com/news/pol...church-attendance-mandatory-article-1.2164602

    Also the Christian Science Monitor of all places has a very interesting op-ed:
    http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Societ...-mandatory-church-lead-to-moral-rebirth-video

    Anyway, my first thought was that this is yet ANOTHER unwitting attack on Judaism by a religious conservative.
     
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    No but it's going to make great, click baits.;)

    I also know that certain newspapers will run with the story.:cool:
     
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    Clinging to their guns and religion. I'll say it again, Obama was right.
     
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    Hopefully the voters in this district will send this idiot packing at the next election.
     
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    But I bet you she thinks mandatory health insurance is socialism.
     
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    it is. the poor get it at the expense of the rest.
     
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    Wahhhhhhh!!

    Same goes for public school then? And taxes in general? Why should my taxes pay for roads that poor people get to drive on?
     
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    They did just that in our previous system as well. Like I said in that...er, other thread I can't remember the name of, you can't simply cut welfare entirely, and pat yourself on the back for a job well done. That's merely costs deferred.

    The most you can do is hope to minimize it, and do so in a humane way.
     
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    1 YES, only those with Children should be on the hook there.
    2 too vague.
    3. gas tax pays for the roads.
     
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    What about poor people who pay no taxes with children? Why should their kids be allowed into the schools that everyone else pays for? That's socialism isn't it?
     
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    I might shock you here, but I have no problems with SOME aspects of socialism:eek:.
    if I am paying for MY kids and those from the poor? I have little issues with it, should those poor kids actually become educated adults it would greatly benefit society. do I think single people should pay into it? nope.

    JS had a great skit on what socialism is. we all support some aspects of it in one for or another.
     
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    We've established as a country that basic education is a right. I view healthcare in the same way. But socialism is a big scary word to throw around to some people, it's sensationalist. That's why Republicans use it to refer to Obamacare. Gets the people going, the dumb ones anyway...
     
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    YOU know, things depend on how they are implemented, single payer sounds more appealing than the mess we find ourselves in today.
     
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    And that's different than pre-ACA how?
     
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    True.. but when you have people spreading FUD, screaming "Death Panels!" "Keep the Government out of my Medicare!" "Socialism!", we end up with the mess we have today.

    And, as if you didn't already know, none of that grandstanding came from anyone on the political left.

    BL.
     
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    we are not subsidizing their insurance, before they could go to the ER, now they have insurance but they can't afford the out of pocket cost .
     
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    How silly of me. Of course they can go get that free ER care. Who paid for that?
     
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    right now we pay for their policies & they still can't go due to the horrendous out of pocket cost, we are are stuck with 2 bills, one for their plan and another when they end up in the ER anyways.
     
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    Why not? Single/childless people benefit from all children getting a decent education. That is the point of a tax system. We all chip in a bit, everyone benefits (at least, theoretically). And that BS about fuel tax paying for roads is just BS: it contributes a little, but roads that are not state or county highways or interstates are purely paid for by property tax. And states get money from the Feds to help make up for where the fuel tax comes up short.
     

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