As Egypt goes offline, US gets internet 'kill switch' bill ready

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  1. fivepoint macrumors 65816

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    Do we want to grant our government the same powers exercised by the Egyptian government this weekend? Did this change the minds of any fence-sitters on this issue?

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    http://www.theage.com.au/technology...et-kill-switch-bill-ready-20110131-1aah3.html
    http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2011/01/kill-switch-legislation/
     
  2. Lord Blackadder macrumors G5

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    The fact is, whether this bill becomes law or not, the president could do it anyway using his emergency powers. So while this might allow a more casual use of such power, it isn't as if we are currently safe from such a scenario.
     
  3. dscuber9000 macrumors 6502a

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    Turning off the Internet would be so much political suicide, that I don't think it would matter if the President has that option or not. :p
     
  4. karsten macrumors 6502a

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    no the nutjobs would find some way to justify it and make people who complained out to be some liberal commie saboteurs or something
     
  5. Andeavor macrumors 6502

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    There was no internet during the French Revolution and they didn't stand a chance...
     
  6. OutThere macrumors 603

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    Yep. Absolutely. We have to cut... Obama's "freeze" is ridiculously pointless.
     
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    The supposed fear is that terrorists could get into the power grid or flood the Hover Dam. Well why not fix these things so they can't be hacked into instead of creating these stupid laws.
     
  10. Apple OC macrumors 68040

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    The Government already has the means to do this ... they just want to have a pre-made excuse for it. ... in two words

    homeland security
     
  11. karsten macrumors 6502a

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    just look to britain for the scary stuff we can implement here, seems they're always a step ahead
     
  12. NickZac macrumors 68000

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    This sounds like it is an additional part of the Patriot Act...oh joy!

    How would one person/org limit information as this suggests? Is it possible?

    I'll tell you one thing...if you deny internet porn, youtube, facebook, 4chan, ebay, and amazon to this nation of 'God, Glory and Google', it will be chaos. People will take to the streets. Mayhem and Microsoft.
     
  13. CaptMurdock macrumors 6502a

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    That's not a bad idea: during the next national emergency, force-feed everybody's computer with porn. Keep 'em nice and calm.
     
  14. NickZac macrumors 68000

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    If you get like 10 select celebrities and have them do a live-streaming striptease, there could be an Abrams tank rolling down your block which is surrounded by millions of apartments and yet no one would even notice. Hell, if someone was streaming something like nude shots of that chick from 'Friends', a B2 Spirit Stealth Bomber could be flying at 100 ft elevation from CA to DC and yet it gets not a single bit of news coverage.
     
  15. rdowns macrumors Penryn

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    Come on dude. You know it's impossible to make things hacker proof.
     
  16. NickZac macrumors 68000

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    ****, they can't even make a jar of mayonnaise child-proof...

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  17. OutThere macrumors 603

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    Yes, this concerns me greatly. Kids all over the country are getting into the mayo, overdosing, trying harder condiments, selling to their friends. I lock up my mayonnaise when the housecleaner comes, what with the high rate of theft and all.
     
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    I was always more of a mustard man. At my low point I was doing 3 jars of Grey Poupon a day. Now I grow my own seeds in the backyard and everything is copacetic.
     
  19. NickZac macrumors 68000

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    I wish more people would be more responsible with their condiment usage like you are.






    That stuff is hard to avoid...
     
  20. barkomatic macrumors 68040

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    It's sounds like this bill is intended to protect banking, and critical infrastructure during a cyberattack and not specifically to shut down the internet due to a popular uprising.

    If we have a *future* oppressive government of some sort it will not need a particular law to give it the power to shut off the internet. What would happen is the governement would declare martial law, and "emergency powers" would be granted to whatever executive is in charge at the time. This would allow him or her to suspend whatever human right they wished.

    This "Obama is trying to set himself up as a Dictator/Oppressor" rhetoric is getting really old and misleading. Remember, Obama was ELECTED the President, just like all Presidents before him. Just because you didn't vote for him and disagree with his policies does not automatically make Obama a dictator.

    Until the President declares himself Emperor for life I'm not worried.
     
  21. rdowns macrumors Penryn

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    I blame it all on ketchup, damn gateway condiment.
     
  22. NickZac macrumors 68000

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    I think condiments are a bigger threat than a US President becoming a dictator/communist/socialist/terrorist/other_word_that_brings_fear_to_your_heart to be honest guys :p
     
  23. karsten macrumors 6502a

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    problem is once the capability to do it is in place, all it takes is a national emergency and an administration that bends the words of the law to suit the circumstances.
     
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    I lean toward karsten's comment. The government has decided it must keep healthcare and banking afloat. Whether you think that is due to Republicans or Democrats, and whether you think that expanse of power is good or bad or both or neither is flatly irrelevant when it comes to one not-so-insignificant thing - the government can link any proposed legislation to being "critical" for the protection of healthcare and/or banking. Whether it is Obama or Bush or Palin or Alvin Greene as President, and whether it be Republicans or Democrats or Independents in charge of Congress, it takes very little brain power to justify any measure as being in furtherance of - "critical to" - banking or healthcare. There is nothing that can't be reached. It used to be limited to "interstate commerce." That phrase is now both de facto and de jure meaningless in light of the government's "responsibilities."
     
  25. MacNut macrumors Core

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    Maybe if they would stop using Windows to run the government they would have a shot.
     

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