Assange Charged-- Washington Post

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WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange has been charged under seal, prosecutors inadvertently revealed in a recently unsealed court filing — a development that could significantly advance the probe into Russian interference in the 2016 election and have major implications for those who publish government secrets.

The disclosure came in a filing in a case unrelated to Assange. Assistant U.S. Attorney Kellen S. Dwyer, urging a judge to keep the matter sealed, wrote that “due to the sophistication of the defendant and the publicity surrounding the case, no other procedure is likely to keep confidential the fact that Assange has been charged.” Later, Dwyer wrote the charges would “need to remain sealed until Assange is arrested.”
The filing in the Eastern District of Virginia came Aug. 22 in a case that combines national security and sex trafficking. Seitu Sulayman Kokayi, 29, was charged with enticing a 15-year-old girl to have sex with him and send him pornographic images of herself. But he was detained in part because he “has a substantial interest in terrorist acts,” according to the court filing.
 
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About as good as pissing into a massive fire hoping to extinguish it. It'd just be easier to make him disappear. Cheaper on the tax payer, too.
 

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wonderful news.
USAmerican justice is wonderful.
its slow and meandering,
but USAmericans are basically good people.
and America's justice professionals are fair and methodical.
young Americans in their early 20's are disgusted and losing faith in their judicial process because its taking a long time to work the trail up to the top (trump).
but its getting there. its getting there.
its a wonderful day.
 

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The fact that assange is more newsworthy than some of the epic corruption he has exposed regarding both current and past government officials is the true tragedy here.
“Epic corruption” what’s that?

The Clinton scandals from the 1990s have a lot more meat on them.

I guess the original stuff wikileaks found like Iraq was pretty bad.
 

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I think this is highly likely to be connected to the work of the Mueller investigation.

More than two years ago, I pointed out the high degree of probability that Wikileaks had morphed into a conduit for Russian intelligence material. Some people were skeptical of that assertion (to put it mildly) but I think time and events have proven me correct.

Why the sealed nature of the indictment of Assange? That suggests, to me, that Mueller and other investigators have tried to talk to Assange, but have been rebuffed. An indictment of the Ecuadoran Embassy's unwelcome guest would place additional pressure on both the Ecuadorans and Assange to cooperate.

Assange is the missing piece of the puzzle in the Russia/Trump investigation. Assange's cooperation might not be vital to creating a coherent case of the connection between Putin's Security Services and trolls and Donald Trump's Campaign. But he could confirm the fact that the DNC and Podesta e-mails were the products of Russian spies, rather than some "400lb guy in his basement" - as Donald Trump would have us believe. CIA and Crowdstrike analysis is all very well, but the general public would find Assange's testimony more credible.

The fact that this popped up in open court in the proceedings of a totally unrelated case is troubling, and puzzling. Proof-reading briefs, filings, and other court documents is a huge part of the legal workday. A lawyer simply doesn't go to court without having somebody methodically read through each piece of paper, checking case citations, spellings of names, formatting, etc. The suggestion that this accidentally got "cut and pasted" into the unrelated case by mistake is I think plausible. But if so, that's pretty sloppy work for a Federal Prosecutors office.

It's possible that this "accidental" revelation of an indictment against Assange is part of an elaborate double-bluff by Mueller's team. Designed to send a signal of some sort, either to Assange or another target of the investigation. I have no idea as to the ethics of this sort of ploy, if that's what it is. But given Mueller's reputation for integrity, I'd think it more likely to be a genuine mistake. I hate to disappear down the Rabbithole of Conspiracy Theories.
 

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from the new york times

While the filing started out referencing Mr. Kokayi, federal prosecutors abruptly switched on its second page to discussing the fact that someone named “Assange” had been secretly indicted, and went on to make clear that this person was the subject of significant publicity, lived abroad and would need to be extradited — suggesting that prosecutors had inadvertently pasted text from a similar court filing into the wrong document and then filed it.
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Mr. Hughes, the terrorism expert, who is the deputy director of the Program on Extremism at George Washington University, posted a screenshot of the court filing on Twitter shortly after The Wall Street Journal reported on Thursday that the Justice Department was preparing to prosecute Mr. Assange.

“You guys should read EDVA court filings more,” Mr. Hughes wrote, “cheaper than a Journal subscription.”
 

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Anyone paying attention recently has known that the USA is going to do anything it can to get it's hands on the guy. I mean, he only revealed massive abuse of power, massive human rights abuses, and blatant spying of the entire planet. Better we citizens be mad about his support of Trump during the election than....I don't know....the documents he released showing how our country is built on nothing but corruption and violations of just about every principle we claim to stand for?

Can't have the big lie actually receive any coverage from a complicit media aparatus, just crucify those who expose it.
 

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Anyone paying attention recently has known that the USA is going to do anything it can to get it's hands on the guy. I mean, he only revealed massive abuse of power, massive human rights abuses, and blatant spying of the entire planet. Better we citizens be mad about his support of Trump during the election than....I don't know....the documents he released showing how our country is built on nothing but corruption and violations of just about every principle we claim to stand for?

Can't have the big lie actually receive any coverage from a complicit media aparatus, just crucify those who expose it.
Where are his releases on Russia he promised?

And frankly the Dead Kennedy’s were making these points in the 1980s so it’s not new.
 

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Where are his releases on Russia he promised?

And frankly the Dead Kennedy’s were making these points in the 1980s so it’s not new.
The primary sources are factual proof of these things, something the world didn’t have before.

There’s a Russia section on Wikileaks...

Frankly, I’m shocked that the drone papers, the spying documents, the paradise papers (not Wikileaks), etc hasn’t gotten the populations of the world to see just how detached from law & order the international oligarchy are from the rest of us, while they call the shots on everyone’s living conditions.

Assange gave the populations of the world a concrete gift showing hard evidence of this class’s rule over us all and the millions that die as a result...and we shrugged.

Assange will be disappeared or dead in the next few years, and nothing will have changed as these “leaders” continue to race off the cliff towards the end of the species. Only when things get undeniably bad for the comfortable will we look around and wonder why we never did anything...

All I’m saying is that we’ve decided it’s best to focus on the messenger as our target for outrage instead of the FACTS that were exposed that are a far larger threat to us all.
 
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The primary sources are factual proof of these things, something the world didn’t have before.

There’s a Russia section on Wikileaks...

Frankly, I’m shocked that the drone papers, the spying documents, the paradise papers (not Wikileaks), etc hasn’t gotten the populations of the world to see just how detached from law & order the international oligarchy are from the rest of us, while they call the shots on everyone’s living conditions.

Assange gave the populations of the world a concrete gift showing hard evidence of this class’s rule over us all and the millions that die as a result...and we shrugged.

Assange will be disappeared or dead in the next few years, and nothing will have changed as these “leaders” continue to race off the cliff towards the end of the species. Only when things get undeniably bad for the comfortable will we look around and wonder why we never did anything...

All I’m saying is that we’ve decided it’s best to focus on the messenger as our target for outrage instead of the FACTS that were exposed that are a far larger threat to us all.
This whole country has become about shoot the messenger and “don’t you talk about my mama!”. The truth of the message or what is being said about mama is entirely a moot point.
 
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This is coming right around the same time it looks increasingly like Roger Stone will be indicted at some point.

Trump - despite hiring Roger Stone, talking about him in the past, and appearing in his documentary "Get Me Roger Stone" - will probably say Stone was a coffee boy.

Trump says all this has nothing to do with him. Yet he hires the best people, knows the most words, has an incredible IQ, is a stable genius, but apparently didn't know his family and staff were meeting with Russians in what is essentially his home, had criminals working for him, was being recorded by his lawyer while talking about how to pay off his mistresses, didn't know that he - as a nationalist - had undocumented Polish workers during construction of Trump tower...

Anyone who looks at the timeframe of all that crap around Assange and the emails, what was said by whom and when... you have to be deaf, dumb, ignorant - or all three - to believe there was "no collusion, no collusion".
 
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The mere idea of Assange being charged is absurd. Wikileaks, Snowden, etc.... all are heroes and have helped serve to keep governments in check.

As long as the US continues to utilize the NSA for a government-mandated spying facility on every citizen in this country, you need people who are the counter punch.
 
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The mere idea of Assange being charged is absurd. Wikileaks, Snowden, etc.... all are heroes and have helped serve to keep governments in check.

As long as the US continues to utilize the NSA for a government-mandated spying facility on every citizen in this country, you need people who are the counter punch.
Agreed, except for the "in check" part. Literally nothing has changed, and the programs have gotten bigger and more intertwined with allies.

Five eyes is a fun workaround to allow the skirting of the law (not that the NSA actually follows it to begin with) to allow US spying on all US citizens....by merely having an ally do it and share the information.

We built a prison, and are mad at those exposing the prison for what it is.
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“Epic corruption” what’s that?

The Clinton scandals from the 1990s have a lot more meat on them.

I guess the original stuff wikileaks found like Iraq was pretty bad.
The US is spying on the entire world. That’s including our own politicians.

Did everyone seem to forget what WikiLeaks exposed or did history magically start during the 2016 election?

Who watches the watchmen?
 

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Agreed, except for the "in check" part. Literally nothing has changed, and the programs have gotten bigger and more intertwined with allies.

Five eyes is a fun workaround to allow the skirting of the law (not that the NSA actually follows it to begin with) to allow US spying on all US citizens....by merely having an ally do it and share the information.

We built a prison, and are mad at those exposing the prison for what it is.
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The US is spying on the entire world. That’s including our own politicians.

Did everyone seem to forget what WikiLeaks exposed or did history magically start during the 2016 election?

Who watches the watchmen?
Sorry, to be clear which revelation are you talking about?
 

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Sorry, to be clear which revelation are you talking about?
Cables, the Snowden revelations, Vault 7, etc. when you look at the primary source documents (which is what WikiLeaks deals with) it’s crystal clear that the way we are told governments around the world work is NOT how they actually work.

Instead, we’ve gotten sucked into talking about Assange instead of what his organization revealed and how not a damn thing has changed since.
 
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“Epic corruption” what’s that?

The Clinton scandals from the 1990s have a lot more meat on them.

I guess the original stuff wikileaks found like Iraq was pretty bad.
Wikileaks leaked a heap of the clinton emails/cables. And they are included in what i am referring to.

Not use US government corruption either. Various other government's corruption exposed via leaked cables.
 

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Trump or his family owes the Saudis something, or they have something on him. Piss tape Pres. Someone has it, and he's presiding accordingly.
 

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He's very selective about what he calls out. People like him just want to watch the world burn so that the ideological fanatics behind him can benefit. Shouldn't he be calling out his own corruption?
Sure, he’s an anti imperialist, so selective that covers just about any interaction the US has.

I have no love for the guy himself, but the only thing “selective” about the leaks are which ones our media has chosen to cover.
 

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Sure, he’s an anti imperialist, so selective that covers just about any interaction the US has.

I have no love for the guy himself, but the only thing “selective” about the leaks are which ones our media has chosen to cover.
And the fact that he hasn’t leaked anything serious that’s anti-Russian.