At least 37 killed in attack on Tunisian Tourist destination


Praxis91

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But Obama said these shootings don't happen in other countries!

Perhaps he's too distracted by his memories of Larry Sinclair to comment on this massacre by Muslims.
 

Praxis91

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Yes, and except for the 37 dead it worked perfectly.
The proggies will never stop until all private gun ownership is eliminated. Fortunately, they will fail in their endeavor, but they won't stop bitching about it.

It's like the SCOTUS rulings this week. They say that the ACA and gay marriage are here and to stay and we can't do anything about it.. yet they bitch and moan and complain about the SCOTUS rulings on Citizens United and Heller (Second Amendment confirmed as an INDIVIDUAL right).

Liberals are never happy. Did Conservatives go "haha nanny nanny boo boo" when C.U. and Heller came out? Nope. Now the libs are so happy about these rulings this week that it's going to piss off the Conservative base even more for the 2016 elections. :D
 

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The proggies will never stop until all private gun ownership is eliminated. Fortunately, they will fail in their endeavor, but they won't stop bitching about it.

It's like the SCOTUS rulings this week. They say that the ACA and gay marriage are here and to stay and we can't do anything about it.. yet they bitch and moan and complain about the SCOTUS rulings on Citizens United and Heller (Second Amendment confirmed as an INDIVIDUAL right).

Liberals are never happy. Did Conservatives go "haha nanny nanny boo boo" when C.U. and Heller came out? Nope. Now the libs are so happy about these rulings this week that it's going to piss off the Conservative base even more for the 2016 elections. :D
Sorry to break it to you but the events in Tunisia have little or no relationship to the legality of being armed in the U.S.

Thanks for your desperate attempt to derail the thread though.
 

burgundyyears

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Tunisia is actually last in the 2007 small arms survey that estimated per capita rates of civilian owned firearms: Just 0.1 per 100 people (the US was at 88.8 per 100 in that same survey, or 888 times higher). Good evidence that, once again, the "reduce gun ownership" approach to avoiding mass casualties is almost certainly a fool's errand. At least the killer didn't have to worry about being interrupted by any actual resistance before the (armed) police could stop him.
 

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Tunisia is actually last in the 2007 small arms survey that estimated per capita rates of civilian owned firearms: Just 0.1 per 100 people (the US was at 88.8 per 100 in that same survey, or 888 times higher). Good evidence that, once again, the "reduce gun ownership" approach to avoiding mass casualties is almost certainly a fool's errand. At least the killer didn't have to worry about being interrupted by any actual resistance before the (armed) police could stop him.
Well Tunisia's history with mass casualties aren't as common as the US's, or does not revolve around people walking into schools and murdering children every few months.

Tunisia also managed to overthrow it's corrupt government without guns.

However this thread is for discussion about the events in Tunisia, not gun ownership in the U.S.
 

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The news are saying that this was a Lone Wolf type of attack, these are nearly imposable to prevent. The tourist industry has been hit hard, and Tunisia relies on it to generate foreign exchange.
The next few months will be critical for Tunisia, if the tourists stay away, and the economy crumbles, then fanatics can take advantage of the situation.
 
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The news are saying that this was a Lone Wolf type of attack, these are nearly imposable to prevent. The tourist industry has been hit hard, and Tunisia relies on it to generate foreign exchange.
The next few months will be critical for Tunisia, if the tourists stay away, and the economy crumbles, then fanatics can take advantage of the situation.
Tourists will stay away...... The tourist industry in the UK is now on high alert about sending people to parts of france, spain, morocco and turkey. In tunisia ISIS have attacked what they see as a symbol of western decadence and succeeded.

But when it comes to terrorist attacks all the American right contingent go think of is using Islam as a dirty word to describe savages, when they can't do that they revert back to bleating on about guns.... Its childish and pathetic.

If Americans had been killed they'd want the whole world and their wife to know about it. :rolleyes:
 

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I'm sad about the deaths in Tunisia ,but lets get a grip here, in the last few days around 500 people have been killed in Kobani,you want details they killed entire families and when they found only elderly people they shot them in their legs and then suggested they call their families to come and get them,and then slaughtered the families.The Turkish line is they came from the west,not possible the only crossing is controlled by the YPG/J.they came across the border from Turkey.The YPG/J swarmed back from the front line 70 km away and surrounded and killed them not without unfortunately losing those five hundred souls.
 
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I'm sad about the deaths in Tunisia ,but lets get a grip here, in the last few days around 500 people have been killed in Kobani
The world doesn't need a misery off. There is more than one can really comprehend. Every day 10s of thousands of people starve to death.
 
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The world doesn't need a misery off. There is more than one can really comprehend. Every day 10s of thousands of people starve to death.
No we don't need a misery off and by the way everybody in western countries is complicit in the deaths through hunger,thirst and easily cured diseases .
I was merely pointing out the gross difference in reporting of people in Tunisia being killed (mainly because they were mostly Brits/Irish) and the reporting from Rojava where with mostly with only light arms the Syrian Kurds (with a little help from the FSA and air support from mainly the US ) are the only group confronting IS and beating them.Yet they are a proscribed terrorist group according to the US and others.A group who's social policies are light years ahead of the rest of the middle east and who's grim determination not to be beaten ranks up there with Stalingrad.
 

burgundyyears

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Well Tunisia's history with mass casualties aren't as common as the US's, or does not revolve around people walking into schools and murdering children every few months.
Instead they walk around beaches and murder tourists in Tunisia. Yes, that's much better. Also, Tunisia is less than 1/30 of the population of the US, so this is just a huge, huge attack by any measure.

However this thread is for discussion about the events in Tunisia, not gun ownership in the U.S.
Yes and I made the observation that you can hardly find a place with less civilian ownership of guns than Tunisia.
 
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Tunisia is actually last in the 2007 small arms survey that estimated per capita rates of civilian owned firearms: Just 0.1 per 100 people (the US was at 88.8 per 100 in that same survey, or 888 times higher). Good evidence that, once again, the "reduce gun ownership" approach to avoiding mass casualties is almost certainly a fool's errand. At least the killer didn't have to worry about being interrupted by any actual resistance before the (armed) police could stop him.
I wonder how many of those unarmed caught in the attack wished they could've been armed for that one moment...
 

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Tens of thousands? Every day?

Link.
This is a little less attention grabbing that where I saw numbers before but it amounts to 18,000 under five on average. Obviously people 5 and up aren't immune to lacking food.

"10.9 million children under five die in developing countries each year. Malnutrition and hunger-related diseases cause 60 percent of the deaths;"

http://www.un.org/en/globalissues/briefingpapers/food/childhunger.shtml

People posting numbers are usually pushing an agenda of some sort so you don't really have to take it at face value if you don't want to but the take away is lots of people die in preventable ways every day and it is rarely on the news.
 
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Yeah, cos I carry an assault rifle in my speedos.
Being armed doesn't mean with an assault rifle and yeah, relaxing on the beach is probably the last place most people would consider arming themselves but the point is, when caught in a situation like that, I bet even the hardest of hardcore anti-gun zealots would wish they had some sort of gun to defend themselves.