At what point will the cruelty end?

Discussion in 'Politics, Religion, Social Issues' started by RacerX, Sep 27, 2008.

  1. RacerX macrumors 65832

    Aug 2, 2004
    I, like many people, can make any number of arguments against Sarah Palin for the Vice Presidential spot... so I won't.

    No, at this point in time I think we should address a far more disturbing aspect of this... and I'm not talking about things like the witch hunter stuff or her religious views, I've been looking at a much more down to earth, human issue here.

    In a very real sense I think the McCain campaign has damaged this woman. And in a real (though not literal) sense she is being abused. And it has nothing to do with her being female, the same thing could have been done to someone who is male as well (and to a degree, the same thing was done to Dan Quayle).

    From what I can tell, Palin was a hard headed governor who loved the spotlight, and loved a fight even more. Her positions on the issues (frightening as they are) aside, she wouldn't have backed down from anything thrown at her before this.

    What changed?

    Lets face it, the people you have around you are very important to your self image. If you have supportive people, you can bounce back from any mistakes. Bush's bubble is a perfect example of people basically shielding a person from their own failures. Bush could screw up and bounce back as if nothing had happened (even if the country wasn't able to).

    Palin not only doesn't have this anymore, she has the exact opposite now. She is surrounded by people who are showing her that they have no faith in her at all. They have effectively destroyed her self confidence. And in making up for their own missteps early on, she has been saddled with defending bizarre talking points (like the foreign policy/proximity argument). Now she has a dear in the headlights look in almost any situation she finds herself in, ready for the worst to happen.

    From what I can tell, she wasn't like this before. She could sit down and give an interview without seeming like she had just recently learned english. In fact, it seems like she was originally rather quick on her feet.

    Her handlers in the McCain campaign did this. And it shouldn't have been unexpected. Hiding her from the media (which was her strongest area before) has made her constantly second guessing and doubting herself. Why is she rambling on in her answers? Because she is listening to her own responses trying to avoid mistakes.

    To a degree every person who finds themselves in a VP spot on a ticket is going to have to make adjustments. Biden has been his own person in politics for years and now finds himself having to echo someone else's talking points.

    Is he going to make mistakes? Sure.

    But like falling off a horse, you have to jump right back on or the seeds of doubt will be firmly planted. Palin should have been in front of the press all this time. She should never been made to defend the bizarre talking points put forward at the GOP convention about her foreign policy experience. And by instilling a fear of the press in her, her handlers have done far worse than damaged her for this campaign... I'd be willing to bet that she will have a hard time getting back to where she was after this is all over.
  2. paddy macrumors 6502a


    Jun 25, 2005
    She chose to be in this position. She knew the limitations of her knowledge better than anyone before choosing to enter this race. What did she think would happen?
  3. RacerX thread starter macrumors 65832

    Aug 2, 2004
    Well, again, this isn't about her limitations.

    What should she have expected?

    Maybe that her handlers wouldn't end up being her worst enemies? I think that would be a fair expectation for anyone running for public office, and I doubt she had to face anything like this in any of her previous runs.

    Like her or hate her, this issue of how people behind the scenes play a big part in the future of our country shouldn't be over looked. It was this type of handling (though not as extreme) of Dukakis by John Sasso in 88 that I found rather disturbing (Sasso being the perfect example that dirty politics can be done on either side of the political divide).
  4. skunk macrumors G4


    Jun 29, 2002
    Republic of Ukistan
    It may be that the kind of bald arguments which would win votes and sway opinion in an isolated, rural and sparsely-populated backwater like Alaska are not likely to work on a national, let alone international stage. She has been a big fish in a relatively small and insignificant pond. Now she is quite simply out of her depth.
  5. rdowns macrumors Penryn


    Jul 11, 2003

    And I'm sure she still can if it is a subject that she knows and is comfortable with. Look at her interview with Hannity. When the subject was about Alaska, she did a pretty good job and was rather quick on her feet. In fact, she did pretty good on most of the softballs. Fast forward to her being asked about national issues and she turned into Misss Teen USA.
  6. RacerX thread starter macrumors 65832

    Aug 2, 2004
    :rolleyes: Yeah... I mean you might be right. It isn't like she had ever had to face an interview with anyone of the caliber of Katie Couric before (like Charlie Rose or the like).

    Again, being wrong for this position doesn't fully explain why she is imploding here... specially considering that the only people she is having contact with are her handlers.

    There are plenty of threads pointing out her plentiful failings, and this thread isn't here to dispute those failings. But it is important to understand what is going on behind the curtain none the less. There are people who don't care (one way or the other) attempting to influence elections, and knowing that they are there and what they are doing (even if it doesn't work, as in this case) is important to being an informed electorate.

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