Atheist fight to have WTC Cross removed

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  1. rhett7660 macrumors G4

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    http://www.today.com/news/world-tra...inues-athiest-group-appeals-ruling-2D79328902

    Am I missing they way this is reading, but the museum is a private owned museum? Granted it is on leased property from the government... so I have a feeling that is where the lawsuit is steaming from.

    Thoughts?
     
  2. iJohnHenry macrumors P6

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    What is their motivation for such abject stupidity??

    The cynic in me wonders if this 'group' is funded in secret by the Religious Right, in an attempt to paint all Atheists in a bad light.
     
  3. rdowns macrumors Penryn

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    I don't want 10 Commandments on a courthouse or things like that but this is taking it too far, IMO.
     
  4. numlock macrumors 68000

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    was it found this perfectly "cross" shaped or was it worked on?
     
  5. jkcerda macrumors 6502

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    makes no difference.
     
  6. skunk macrumors G4

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    I hope it is displayed right next to the piece of toast with Jesus' face on it.
     
  7. tshrimp macrumors 6502

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    Not sure the atheists need any help with that :). It is things like this that make them look bad.
     
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    Oh, please. These people represent Atheists in the same way the Westboro Baptist Church represents Christians.
     
  9. Michael Goff macrumors G3

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    So you're saying that if people start parading these people as "token atheists", I should start saying the WBC is mainstream Christianity?

    Heck, it's even worse than that. Christianity supposedly has a book that tells you how to act. Atheists have no such thing.
     
  10. numlock macrumors 68000

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    why quote a post and not even answer it?


    and as mentioned it should be a in a special museum with jesus toast and that kind of works of god.
     
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  12. Michael Goff macrumors G3

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    This has nothing to do with tolerance.
     
  13. Shrink macrumors G3

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    Yup...ALL atheists feel exactly the same way about EVERYTHING.

    And since this group represents ALL atheists...well...




    :rolleyes::rolleyes: <----Please Note!
     
  14. JoeG4 macrumors 68030

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    It has everything to do with intolerance. I was being sarcastic.
     
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    Completely agreed. Especially as it's a private museum.
     
  16. Michael Goff macrumors G3

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    It has very little to do with intolerance either.
     
  17. lannister80 macrumors 6502

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    "The National 9/11 Memorial and Museum" doesn't sounds very private to me, especially if it's on federally-owned land.
     
  18. AustinIllini macrumors demi-god

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    The National Football League doesn't sound very private either.

    Don't people have more important things to be upset about?
     
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    it was answered, you simply did not like the answer.

    if it is in a PRIVATE museum , who cares? it is as relevant at the Jesus toast.
     
  20. LIVEFRMNYC macrumors 603

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    If religion can't discriminate, then it shouldn't be discriminated against.

    Will the Koran be placed next to the cross?
     
  21. Eraserhead macrumors G4

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    Does "National car rental" sound private?
     
  22. jkcerda macrumors 6502

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    sounds like a catchy name, it should be banned unless it really is a "national" business :p
     
  23. lannister80 macrumors 6502

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    Point taken, however when you look at federal museums (not sports leagues), there is a naming convention:
    • National Gallery of Art
    • National Museum of African American History and Culture
    • National Museum of African Art
    • National Air and Space Museum
    • National Museum of American History
    • National Museum of History and Technology
    • National Museum of Natural History
    • National Museum of the American Indian
    • National Portrait Gallery
    • National Postal Museum
    • National Zoological Park
    • National Museum of the United States Air Force
    • National Museum of the United States Army
    • National Museum of Health and Medicine
    • National Museum of the United States Navy
    • National Museum of Naval Aviation
    • National Atomic Testing Museum
    • National Civil Rights Museum
    • National Civil War Museum
    • National Electronics Museum
    • National Museum of Nuclear Science & History
    • National Museum of the Pacific War
    • National World War One Museum
    • National World War Two Museum
    I could *easily* see most people thinking this museum is NOT private.

    Yeah, I really don't care about this, and I'm an atheist.
     
  24. Eraserhead macrumors G4

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    I think it is fair enough to be upset that some people think that part of the WTC metal looks like a cross and is displayed in a museum is something that shouldn't be allowed.

    I'm tempted to say that you guys should take the Queen (and an ESTABLISHED church) back. Maybe that way you'd become as non religious as us, but not worry about such nonsense ;).

    That way you'd also miss out on Bush/Obama/Underwood as president ;).
     
  25. hulugu macrumors 68000

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    I agree. It's akin to asking an art museum to remove all the paintings of Christian symbols.

    The 'cross' of steel is part of the history of the Twin Towers' destruction and so it should remain.

    The fact that the museum is privately-run just adds to it.


    I could as well, but that doesn't create a legal case. The presumption that the place is public or private is not enough, it must actually be publicly owned for the atheists to have a case.
     

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