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  1. Mr. Chewbacca macrumors 6502a

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    The Atheist News Podcast is the winner of best podcast, religion and inspiration category! Looks like reason is getting popular.

    Most of the top ten are skeptic/atheist themed podcast. http://www.podcastawards.com/
     
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    So? Part of the point pf atheism is not to follow anyone. Ridiculous and pointless. Creating some ideology around not believing in a god is repulsive to me. The entire idea of idolizing an atheist is ridiculous.
     
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    Ayn Rand would be proud.
     
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    if only she had not become a socialist and used Medicare. :)
     
  5. Mr. Chewbacca thread starter macrumors 6502a

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    Lee? I have to admit I'm kinda surprised by that comment. This is not a follow the leader thing, it's a news program for a group of people just beginning to find their voice.

    What is wrong with a group of people that are marginalized by society as a whole getting together to share news and express their ideas? Why shouldn't we be allowed to be politically active to protect our interests?

    The largest ever add campaign promoting humanism was just launched, it costs 200,000. In contrast religious organizations used around 40 million fighting gay marriage in California. Secular organizations are so out numbered and wayyyy under budget.

    I found it relevant and exciting that despite our disadvantages more people are listening.
     
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    It was her own fault for living/dying outside of her needs. She should have just created more wealth.
     
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    Do tax laws have any kind of affect on that?
     
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    I don't know that I would put my feelings quite that strongly, but I think I can see your point. I don't know what AN's agenda is. (Listening to a podcast now, but not really getting much out of it).

    What I see needing to be "fought for" when it comes to religion is separation of church and state, and religious freedom and tolerance. Ideally, everybody should be fighting for these things - Muslims, Christians, Jews, and atheists alike. But unfortunately, this doesn't happen enough. If that's AN's take on things, that's awesome, but I don't believe it should be specific to atheists, and if there's any validity to that thought, I'm not sure they should label it as a strictly "atheist" viewpoint via naming the podcast that way. Just thinking out loud...

    On the flip side, taunting people of other religions as an aggressive skeptic or attempting to disprove the existence of any gods doesn't really interest me. Hopefully that agenda is not gaining traction.
     
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    I simply find no reason to organize. Atheism is not a religion or belief system. It's the complete lack thereof. It should not be an aggressive thing- quite the opposite. I don't like this at all, I must say.

    Exactly.
     
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    Being gay is not a religion, a political position or belief system. So why do they organize, could it be to protect their rights and gather with like minded people?

    I'm not gay but I financially support multiple gay rights organizations because I take a stand for human rights,(pretty sure my mailman thinks I'm gay with all of the equality symbol (HRC) mail I get :p) one of the big reasons for that activism is also being involved with secular organizations like the Freedom from Religion Foundation.

    Our point is not to kick the faith out of bake sale church ladies. I have no problem with them. Our problem is with issues like global human rights violations, religion as an underlining cause for war and terrorism, actively blocking stem cell research for superstitious reasons, ect.

    I guess were just going to have to agree to disagree.
     
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    Those cause are everyone's causes, not just reserved for atheists. I don't know why you think only atheists fight for those causes.

    I explained my position earlier and SuperCachetes siad it better than I could.
     
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    The church benefits from several tax credits afforded only to the religious. That extra cash and the extreme unlikelihood of the "non profit" church being cited for participating in political action contribute to their suffocating influence.

    Edit, they get cited but it is a pretty laughable tap on the wrist.


    I never said that atheist/humanists are the only ones that fight for those things but those are the kinds of things we take an active role in.

    While a lot of groups take in interest in human rights many stop at the point of offending religion. I don’t give a *&#@ how offensive it is to religion, things like female circumcision and covering up child rape are not OK. If nothing else the protecting of the seperation of church and state. I don't see a lot of other groups trying to keep superstitious dogma out of our laws.

    You may not think it has any effect on your life but to call it ridiculous and pointless to even have so much as a news podcast because it doesn’t fall in line with what you think is important is a bit harsh.
     
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    People can do whatever they want. I just feel that organizing as atheists is not necessary.
     
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    What Lee is saying and I agree with is, if you don't believe in any religion why call yourself anything. I don't believe in Santa but I don't go around saying I am atheist because I don't believe. I just don't believe and I leave it alone. Giving a label to believing in nothing is kind of stupid.

    Religious view, Atheist or nothing, what sounds better.

    And how can a podcast about a non religion win a religious award?
     
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    Maybe it's because there are enough non-religious people out there fed up with how religion still has significant influence in life (eg, the ability to lobby governments, raise huge sums of money, dictate people's behaviours etc) and yet there isn't an effective voice for those who aren't religious. Organising in order to actively fight for the voice of reason against those who would subject everyone around them to their particular flavour of nonsense (eg, the teaching of creationism in schools under the guise of 'Intelligent Design') isn't about being aggressive to promote atheism, it's about being aggressive in order to stop others forcing their unfounded religious beliefs on others.
     
  16. Mr. Chewbacca, Feb 11, 2011
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    That was just the category they were lumped in.

    Let's say for example a large group of otherwise rational people came to believe in Santa. I would laugh but I wouldn't go out of my way to care. Let's say that group started pooling money influencing laws and had a law passed forcing you to expand your chimney to make room for Santa at your own expense. Now you would have a problem!

    Paying for a bigger chimney is nothing compared to the imposition a loving gay couple must feel when told their 60 year relationship is less valid then a drunk 18 year old in Vegas with a stripper and an Elvis impersonating chaplain. I am talking about an actual couple in my family. That is nothing compared to a gay person in Uganda when christian missionaries have helped usher in the death penalty for homosexuals.

    Let's not forget people with life ending ailments that could possibly find hope in stem cell research. They can't have it because someone else is afraid it may upset their invisible superhero?

    If Christianity were as politically active as tarot readers I would take about the same amount of intrest in them, none :)

    Exactly, the Texas school book debate is a perfect example of when we would need to band together.

    Thanks :)
     
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    No, she should have died like the true American would. :D

    Anyway, I'll check out the podcast. I have to admit, I like the fact that an Atheist podcast won the religious category. :p
     
  18. citizenzen macrumors 65816

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    What's the difference between expression and aggression?

    Being a gay person and used to repression I'd think you'd understand the distinction.
     
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    What a horrible thing to say.
     
  20. citizenzen macrumors 65816

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    How so?

    People have been accusing homosexuals of acting aggressively and wanting "special rights" for years.

    Now, even though he's endured those accusations he's casting the same ones at atheists.

    I'd think he'd be a little more sensitive and understanding when it came to that sort of thing.
     
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    Atheists don't believe in anything so why should they want special treatment?
     
  22. citizenzen macrumors 65816

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    See?

    "Special treatment".

    They're even using the same language.
     
  23. MacNut macrumors Core

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    What are you even getting at?

    If you are a non believer just say that don't label yourself.
     
  24. citizenzen macrumors 65816

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    I get the feeling there's some vital punctuation missing in that sentence. :confused:
     
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    Isn't humanism legally a religion? They have rabbis and can marry people so I figured they'd be tax exempt too.
     

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