Avoiding Siri

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  1. nviz22 macrumors 603

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    Is there a way I can use the Google Assistant to avoid Siri for basic functions? I have the app installed, but I do not see a hot word I can use to activate it while the screen is off. Siri really annoys me because she misunderstands stuff or she cannot provide accurate info to basic queries.

    She told me about JFK when I needed info about a Florida airport.
     
  2. Paddle1, Feb 18, 2018
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    Paddle1 macrumors 68040

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    You cannot, Apple doesn't allow it. The closest thing you can do is use the widget to open the assistant app.
     
  3. -BigMac- macrumors 68000

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    Its a surprise Apple allows Google Assistant at all...

    Google Pixel doesnt even allow you to use Siri
     
  4. ZEEN0j macrumors 65816

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    Apple doesn't allow anyone to use Siri except for their own products.
     
  5. -BigMac- macrumors 68000

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    How it should be. Apple is paying the R&D, no other platform should get it for free.

    Just like it should be with Google Assistant.
    Except googles business plans priority isnt development, its about mining your data lol. have fun :)
     
  6. woodynorman macrumors 6502a

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    Sorta off topic, but what good is a widget when I have Google assistant as an icon on my home page?
     
  7. Shirasaki macrumors G3

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    You can disable both Siri and dictation completely from your device using restriction. But there is no way to achieve the same native level as Siri. I agree that Siri is dumb. Shrug.
     
  8. lolkthxbai macrumors 65816

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    i guess one requires you to unlock your phone first (and look for the app icon if it’s not already the first thing on the screen) and then tap the icon

    the other requires you raise to wake, swipe to the widget screen from the lock screen and tap the google assistant widget, then unlock. this method would be more likely to readily available since it’s a swipe away from the lock screen
     
  9. Suckfest 9001 macrumors 65816

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    Rofl even if Apple freely allowed use of Siri, nobody would choose it over the far superior assistant
     
  10. -BigMac- macrumors 68000

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    lol weird, me and im sure countless people on here use Siri over a ‘far superior assistant’ everyday of the week on our iOS devices.. whats up with that?
     
  11. Julien macrumors G4

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    The reference is to having Siri available on the Google Pixel (or other Android devices). If you had an Android (was in the Android ecosystem) and used Goole Assistant there is probably NOT likely you would downgrade/use Siri on your Android if it were an option. While Google Assistant is not a panacea of an assistant it is overall slightly better than Siri.
     
  12. Suckfest 9001 macrumors 65816

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    Because the "countless" people, including myself, have no choice. It's not like we can remap the home button to Google Assistant. Most people would in a second if given the chance.

    Can't wait till you ask me to provide evidence as if it's not obvious how goddamn awful Siri is
     
  13. Lloydbm41 Suspended

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    Which is exactly why Siri and Apple Maps suck so badly.
     
  14. adamhenry macrumors 68000

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    Because they aren't subject to data mining?;)
     
  15. Lloydbm41 Suspended

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    Yep. Without the background info, the responses are neutered. Ergo, Siri will always be garbage.
     
  16. rukind2 macrumors member

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    Siri: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.

    Everyday I think "hey, this time Siri might work." I am insane.
     
  17. -BigMac- macrumors 68000

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    You know, we will be able to tailor our responses to your comments much better if you provide your exact residential address, current location, weather in your location, current financial status, your favourite foods, last 100 people you have emailed - and the contents, all your contacts and religious and political beliefs...

    And also can we store these for future reference/sell these? regards, the googleman :)
     
  18. Lloydbm41 Suspended

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    You do realize Apple does take personal info as well? It’s not as much and Apple lacks a neural net like Googles.
    But don’t think Apple is holier than thou. It’s hypocritical.
     
  19. Suckfest 9001 macrumors 65816

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    He doesn't. That's kind of the problem
     
  20. T5BRICK macrumors G3

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    Unfortunately, no. Apple doesn’t allow you to replace Siri functionality with something else. You can disable Siri though, which is what I did. If it’s an option, Android based phones are actually really good now. I’ve got a couple friends who switched to Google Pixel phones and they’re really happy with them. I might switch again later this year.

    Welcome to the club. Siri is terrible and Apple doesn’t seem interested in making actual improvements.
     
  21. -BigMac- macrumors 68000

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    Ofcourse they do, every company does, it helps R&D.

    The question here is do they use that info to target you with ads and sell that information to third parties.

    We all know Google does. Ez
     
  22. Lloydbm41 Suspended

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    Considering Google is an ad based entity, my response to that portion of your post is, “Duh”.

    But when it comes to selling your data to 3rd parties, Google is actually better than Apple. Google requires your consent. Apple doesn’t, and they do give it away, but they don’t ask for permission and they won’t tell you who they give it to!

    Here is the info from Apple, Google and Microsoft. After reading this, maybe you should re-evaluate your perception of Apple and Google:

     
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    I stand corrected. Thanks for sharing that, eye opening to say the least..
     
  24. Starfia macrumors 6502a

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    Are you implying Google does tell you who they give it to? Why did you mark that as a difference between Google and Apple?

    Apple obviously requires your consent if you're prompted to read their privacy policy when you sign up – and during everyday use they do ask explicit permission for practically everything.

    Where does Apple indicate the personal data shared with undisclosed third parties without your permission includes those within the list you provided ("…credit card number, location history, demographic data, your contacts, and more")?
     
  25. Sheldonsmith macrumors 6502

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    I just turn Siri off. I have wasted more time mucking with Siri than just to do the same function manually.
     

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