I fail to see how getting something for nothing, and then having the host increase pretty much ALL of what they were giving you for FREE and asking for a NOMINAL annual fee.Originally posted by stevesien
I put up an old link because it shows a pattern of deception. Doesn't it?
And I happen to care. Cause I have given AAPL a lot of my hard earned money and I do NOT like to be cheated!
Anyone who uses this type of account, or a .mac account for that matter, for their business deserves whatever they get. Thinking of taxes, I wonder what the IRS would have to say about it?
Better yet.Originally posted by AlphaTech
I seem to remember that you can have up to 10 email addresses (or something like that) on your new .mac account (for no additional $$). After that ten, you pay $10 per additional address.
I agree that iTools probably costs money--a pretty penny, if you will--to maintain. However, there is more than one way to stop losing that money. I personally feel that Apple chose the "wrong" way to do it.Originally posted by Backtothemac
iTools had to be expensive for them to maintain, and they decided to charge a cheap price for it. Plus they increased the amount of features, and will continue to do so. Don't like it, then go get a .msn, or google, or yahoo address. Hey there is always hotmail.
I was not suggesting that there was a legally binding contract or that anyone should try to pursue legal action against Apple. My point was that there were implied and explicit statements that led people to believe their e-mail was permanent, and these people will be (and are) pissed.Originally posted by AlphaTech
Hey Taft, a verbal statement is not a binding contract... Unless you receive something in writing stating that X service is free, forever, there is no guarantee that it will be.
There is no free e-mail at this time. You must know a person with a .Mac account to get the "free" e-mail.
As for people that have their .mac email as their only one (or main one), it's been posted before that you will be able to get a free email only account. You won't get the extra 10MB of inbox space that you get when you pay, but you still have the option. Really, how difficult will it be to tell the people you get email from on a regular basis that your account has changed???
I do agree with you here, but I was trying to illustrate how much of a pain this whole process can be for a person who simply wants e-mail.
I seriously doubt that Apple will not remind you when it is approaching the renew date. So if you forget to renew, it's your own damned fault for not checking your email.
You need to take responsibility for yourself, and doing what needs to be done, for yourself. Don't expect someone else to be there to do it all for you.
I responded to this earlier. My basic point is that there are many ways to "plug" a hole through which assets are flowing out. Charging *everyone* for a better service is only one of many ways. I don't consider it the best and many other services are displaying that there are other ways.Originally posted by sneed
Web services can be very expensive, if the service took off, and there was high traffic, it could have ended up costing a great deal of $$$. Leaving themselves open to liability like that seems unlikely.
Now, assuming the offer was made, I wouldn't have any issue if we are talking about small amount of cashflow, but we are talking about negative cashflow, and those are two entirely different things. My guess is that they're they are not trying to open up new revenue streams, but trying to plug up the holes in their internet strategy (akamai, and earthlink are also costing them $$.) That is what's important to stock holders, and - more importantly - the financial ananlysts who basically tell them what to think. The marketing value of "iTool" is basically over anyway.
I agree that it *probably* won't effect Apple's bottom dollar very much, if at all. But then again, pissing off your loyal customer base can only hurt you, not help you.
As far as pissing off the Apple loyalists... well, this is pretty minor, all things considered. I've used macs for 18 years, I've done work for Apple, hell, I've even owned a Lisa, and in that time, Apple has pissed me off plenty. I like their products, so I've stuck around.I expect that there are plenty of others who will do the same, regardless. Are you going to turn your back on thousands of dollars of equpiment, and software licenses just because they took your email away? Are you going to be a Windows guy now? People will get over it. They may be nostalgic for the days when itools was free, and being for a part of the the furvor over the transition, but I expect it will just be another badge of honor among the long term users.
Sorry for the delay. Yes, you can deduct business expenses such as paying annual fees for computer services you use in your business.Originally posted by AlphaTech
I fail to see how getting something for nothing, and then having the host increase pretty much ALL of what they were giving you for FREE and asking for a NOMINAL annual fee.
If your a business, or use it for work, you CAN write it off on your taxes. Right mcrain??? sheesh, some people just are NOT happy unless they have something to biatch about.
Setting aside your "pay option" solution (might work, might not,) and nevermind whether or not Apple is justified in its policy, The the whole idea of providing service for those that can't afford it is really irritating. If one can't afford, don't use it.Originally posted by Taft
My opinion is that Apple should consider other options for offering these services, they should consider that a lot of people rely on iTools that can't afford an upgrade (or don't want the extra features), and they should change their policy to allow for minimal free e-mail.
They can then still recoup their hosting costs, and not piss anyone off in the process.
I *almost* completely agree with what you are saying. Except...Originally posted by sneed
Setting aside your "pay option" solution (might work, might not,) and nevermind whether or not Apple is justified in its policy, The the whole idea of providing service for those that can't afford it is really irritating. If one can't afford, don't use it.