BAN all fundraising for public schools!!!!

Discussion in 'Politics, Religion, Social Issues' started by iJohnHenry, Sep 18, 2011.

  1. iJohnHenry macrumors P6

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    OK. Do I have your attention. Just a cold reminder that Canada is still far from perfect.

    I have been simmering over this outrageous story for a while, but can bite my tongue no longer.

    These "people" would rather that no one have extra-curricular school trips, if everyone can't have them. Even though they are FULLY funded by the parents of the students at any given school.

    They are approaching insanity with the power that feel they hold.

    Thank you Oregon, for all the help. :p
     
  2. Ugg macrumors 68000

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    School fundraising has gotten insane. It wasn't that long ago that basic school trips were included. Now it's all about trips toYrup and ski trips to the Andes. I wonder why schools are sponsoring such outrageously expensive activities. They seem to be beyond the scope of public education.,
     
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    That's because they are not, insofar as monitory donations are concerned.

    They are, with respect to organization of said trips.

    The parents pay the freight on these junkets, and the teachers/chaperones have to pay their own way.
     
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    We're just a bunch of damned socialist here in Oregon.

    Seriously. I understand the rich schools have more and better field trips because the parents have more money but as long as the schools are publicly funded some monies should be spread around in a socially equal way so the poorer schools have a chance.
     
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    If someone has enough money to send their child's school on a ski trip, good for them. Whether or not other schools can afford the same activity is irrelevant
     
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    I don't know where you go to school, but my wife's students in the years that I've known her (kindergarten and fifth grade) have never gone skiing for a field trip.

    In fact, I question how many schools of ANY grade have gone skiing as a "field trip." If this were an end-of-year senior trip, or something similar, I completely get it - but as an educational field trip? Something doesn't wash here.
     
  7. iJohnHenry thread starter macrumors P6

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    I guess. :p <see below>

    Back up partner. The schools are publicly funded, the school trips are not.

    Please put your little red book away, there's a good lad. ;)
     
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    Some school trips are publicly funded. This is what I was referring to.

    Wasn't talking about ski trips to Vail :)
     
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    My public K-8 school got out at noon on Tuesdays in the winter and the school would run buses from school to go skiing for the afternoon. It was optional, and families paid for it if they wanted their kids to go. There was some all-inclusive fee for the year that included buses, chaperons and lift tickets for each Tuesday. Some of my favorite times. Nothing like a slow ride on a 2 seat lift with that girl you've got a crush on! ;)
     
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    Typically no. The parent has to give written consent, which includes a waiver of liability of sorts. Children who don't go on the trip work in another classroom (or the library) instead.

    When my wife's class goes on a field trip, they're required to ride the bus with the children, unless it's a walking trip (in which case they walk with the children). If it's a trip where the parents have to pay to use the buses*, the teachers have to pay as well.

    As for food, etc. the teachers would be paying for their own food if they didn't go on the trip, so it's no different in this case.

    *My wife's school district has a budget for field trips, and they can include the cost of an activity, cost of buses, or both. They typically have three field trips a year, two which use buses, one of which the parents have to chip in for bus use (around $2-3 per child).
     
  11. barkomatic macrumors 68040

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    I'm all for fundraising in a public school if its for textbooks or school equipment. However, for districts that are short on cash its a bit ridiculous to ask parents for $300 for trips when there are so many other needs. Who wants to have their kid get stuck in a library all day when he or she knows their friends are skiing? I imagine a lot parents would pay even if they couldn't afford it.
     
  12. iJohnHenry thread starter macrumors P6

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    That's what school taxes are for, whether public or Catholic.

    It's optional, and totally voluntary, unlike taxation.

    A good lesson for the kids to stay in school and improve their lives over their parent's.

    Life is unfair. Is there something wrong with this being highlighted to them?
     
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    I say this a lot to students I teach, and to my own children. I also tell them to get used to it, because life will be unfair to them many times.
     
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    Wow - I've definitely never heard of this type of field trip.
     
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    Every year, the high school I attended takes the entire 8th grade on a tour of Washington, DC, the cost of which was built into tuition for that year. Granted, we took a chartered bus rather than flew, but it's not a completely unheard of event.
     
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    So the NDP wants to pool the money from poor and rich schools to make everything fair? Sounds more like taxation to me, and I imagine we would see a drop in fundraising once the parents realize their kids aren't receiving the full benefit of the money brought in.

    Either that or more private organized trips.
     
  17. iJohnHenry thread starter macrumors P6

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    And there you have it. ;)

    They would prefer that all fundraising be scrapped, rather than have some poor kid feel bad about himself/his parents.

    I call this Social Engineering, and it's been getting uglier and uglier during my last 40-odd years on this planet.

    Nice, eh.
     

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