Benghazi Panel: After 2 Years, Still Nothing

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  1. CaptMurdock macrumors 6502a

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    After using up more Congressional resources than Pearl Harbor, JFK, Watergate, Iran-Contra and 9/11...

    http://www.cnn.com/2016/06/28/politics/benghazi-report-hillary-clinton/

    Yes, Hillary was aware of the security shortcomings. So was Congress, but they wouldn't fund security upgrades. Also:

    "The report reveals that Stevens and senior department officials were apparently keen to set up a permanent consulate in Benghazi ahead of a planned visit to the city by Clinton in October 2012. But the difficulty finding a suitable secure facility prompted officials to exclude the Benghazi compound from official department rules and standards that would have otherwise been more stringent.
    "If you are in a non-diplomatic facility, there are no security standards. They don't exist," one unnamed diplomatic security agent told the committee."

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    On a side note:

    http://www.politico.com/story/2016/06/chris-stevens-hillary-clinton-benghazi-224928?cmpid=sf

    Chris Steven's Sister: "Don't Blame Hillary Clinton for Benghazi"

    "Instead, Stevens remarked that if any entity had any culpability, it was Congress for the State Department's budget.

    "Perhaps if Congress had provided a budget to increase security for all missions around the world, then some of the requests for more security in Libya would have been granted," Stevens told Wright."


     
  2. Zombie Acorn macrumors 65816

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    She helped push the political agenda of this being sparked by a protest video, a fact she knew was false by released emails. She lied to the families of those involved as well.

    She also stood idle while Americans were killed because the administration was worried about how Libyans would take us sending troops in with uniforms.

    What a bunch of losers.
     
  3. jkcerda macrumors 6502

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    13 hours, nothing could be done in 13 hours?
     
  4. Zombie Acorn macrumors 65816

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    A real leader would have issued the order to get our people the **** out of there by any means necessary, then again the only reason we were still there was for a political sham that the war was a success.
     
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    Hours? The senate hasn't done anything useful in over 13 months!
     
  6. jkcerda macrumors 6502

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    1000's dead and over 2.5 million displaced and this AFTER 0bama "liberated" the people.
     
  7. zioxide macrumors 603

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    These guys haven't gotten anything useful done in 2 years. And you think they could have done something in 13 hours?

    4 people died. Study why, implement procedures to prevent it from happening in the future, and move the **** on already. It's clear at this point the only reason this charade has dragged on for this long is political motivations.
     
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    1. incompetence
    2 then don't vote the incompetent in.
    3. who posted the thread? by all means let him know.
     
  9. steve knight Suspended

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    more then that dead because gun availability. thanks NRA. see how easy that was?
     
  10. zioxide macrumors 603

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    First paragraph was the only one directed specifically at you. Second was at the thread in general.

    Unfortunately not voting for incompetence is water under the bridge at this point because both candidates are thoroughly incompetent.
     
  11. jkcerda macrumors 6502

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    that there is the problem my friend, you seemingly think there are only 2 candidates.
     
  12. mrkramer macrumors 603

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    Any bets on how long until committee number 9 gets started?
     
  13. zioxide macrumors 603

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    With the current electoral system we have, there are.

    Unless you're counting Paul Ryan hand-picking the President after nobody gets to 270 electoral votes...
     
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    system will never change unless we nudge it to change.
     
  15. jnpy!$4g3cwk macrumors 65816

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    After all this time and effort, the committee discovered no wrongdoing. And, that it still doesn't like Hillary Clinton. It would be pathetic, but, actually, it is far worse than that -- a symptom of how seriously un-united the U.S. is.
     
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    Wrong doing no, incompetence yes.
     
  17. HEK macrumors 68030

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    Well if you not going to legislate, pass laws, vote on Supreme Court nominees, then you gotta do something besides ask for money and go on vacations. So committees makes sense. Spends money, does nothing, and promotes your political agendas.
     
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    Everyone seems to be working under the impression that this was a drawn out affair, with people stuck in the embassy for hours while the government dragged their feet on what to do. The reality is that the attacks started around 10 PM, Obama cleared the military for immediate action, and the entire thing was done and over with by 1 AM.

    The biggest issue was that the embassy had a weak security force, with the closest support being all the way over in Tripoli.
     
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    I have a suspicion that this entire outpost (later referred to as an embassy, even though it wasn't officially one) was a CIA operations location. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/11/02/benghazi-cia-libya_n_2062131.html

    There is a reason why this was ripe for misinformation, and it was mostly because we weren't ever supposed to know about the location in the first place. My guess is it was yet another weapons running outpost that was supposed to be off the books, right up until political hay could be made over it.
     
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    who do you think armed the insurrection against Kadaffy? we did.
     
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    Wikileaks documents show that we had been propping up rebels with arms and cash since at least 2006 in Libya. Of course we had a major role in the coup. Notice one of the first targets hit was the MASSIVE water infrastructure project that had been close to operational (since rebuilding it from the last time it was bombed before completion), which would have turned Libya into the key agricultural center of Africa.

    AFRICOM couldn't have that.

    https://humanrightsinvestigations.org/2011/07/27/great-man-made-river-nato-bombs/
     
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    There was a CIA outpost in the same complex. It was shelled with mortars a couple of hours after the first evacuation, which resulted in the deaths of a couple of ex-navy seals.
     
  23. NT1440 macrumors G4

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    There is a long history of Embassies being used by the US for covert operation coordination and arms transfers. I suspect the compound was yet another of them. What the mission was there, we'll never know because THAT was never in question during these circus shows we call an investigation.
     
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    would be AWESOME if BOTH dems & repubs responsible would face criminal charges, sadly party loyalist are only interested in the crimes of the "other" party :rolleyes:
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    we have investigated ourselves & found no wrong doing.
     
  25. NT1440 macrumors G4

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    This kind of action goes far beyond just our own politicians. There are geopolitical reasons we tolerate who we tolerate, and kill who kill.
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    Well thank god for that. :p



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